any tricks to starting without glowplugs?

[topless96]

I have had to use ether in my Cummins and heavy equipment. The right way is to crank the engine over then add a spritz to the air cleaner while the motor is spinning at full speed. If you spray first before cranking some say it concentrates in the intake and can just go into 1 cylinder, then can hurt the piston sometimes called ether lock. I have seen ether damage on a tear down of a Case motor, and they have factory ether injection systems. Ether is easially detonated and can preignite while the pistion is in the compression cycle ie before TDC. A trick was to use a thin plastic tube like vacuum tubing into the air cleaner and bring the ether can into the car so you can add a tiny amount while cranking. LOL but the heat gun way sounds easier.

[Rabbit TD]

I have had to use ether in my Cummins and heavy equipment. The right way is to crank the engine over then add a spritz to the air cleaner while the motor is spinning at full speed. If you spray first before cranking some say it concentrates in the intake and can just go into 1 cylinder, then can hurt the piston sometimes called ether lock. I have seen ether damage on a tear down of a Case motor, and they have factory ether injection systems. Ether is easially detonated and can preignite while the pistion is in the compression cycle ie before TDC. A trick was to use a thin plastic tube like vacuum tubing into the air cleaner and bring the ether can into the car so you can add a tiny amount while cranking. LOL but the heat gun way sounds easier.

I can imagine the worse case picture there would be anesthetsizing myself somehow in the process

[riceatingrabbit]

heat guns a good idea...


I still haven't put int my new glow plugs...


I went to start the car this afternoon and it fired right up.... no GPs.. and it was stone cold...

the difference has to be ambient air temp. yesterday morning it was about 50ish and I could t get it to start... today it cranked right up and it was about 75 out..



...interesting...

[arb]

heat guns a good idea...


I still haven't put int my new glow plugs...


I went to start the car this afternoon and it fired right up.... no GPs.. and it was stone cold...

the difference has to be ambient air temp. yesterday morning it was about 50ish and I could t get it to start... today it cranked right up and it was about 75 out..



...interesting...

Yes, temp is everything. May really large diesels have no glow plugs or electric heaters. They use a drip - fire method to heat the intake manifold. Diesel is dripped into a pool in the intake and is ignited to create a small fire to heat the metal which will heat the air when it is cranked.

[Rabbit on Roids]

i like the ether method. i tried about 20 different methods on my audi yesterday. the torch doesnt work if it has a mixing head on it, you need to pipe straight propane in there. the heat gun works the best if you dont want to put fuel in your intake..

i wouldnt use hair spray, it has too much water and glue and *** in it, its made to hold hair from moving, not to be sprayed into an engine. so, whoever uses hair spray, have fun with that. i personally will stick to a small harmless shot of ether to start a dead diesel. ether on a rag over the intake works great too. then it doesnt get a big "hit" of straight ether.

so, basically, on a super worn out engine, the ether worked best for a canned aid. and the heat gun worked best out of all the things that didnt come in a can. im sure heating the head up around the injectors and glows would work great too, i just didnt have the balls to get the flame that close to the injectors or glows.

[ilikevwdiesel]

JUST DUMP A BIG ASS POT O BOILING WATER ON THAT PIG!

[Jay]

Try some of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMUGjlV5HU

 

[Rabbit on Roids]

thats some miracle stuff there!

[MRDART]

Everyone I know talks about how bad it is with ether for the engine, of course I will never use it unless it is an emergency... but The armytrucks and all (almost)other diesel equipment in the swedish army has the facility of using ether cartridges for really cold starts... we had to use them quite frequently even on fairly new vehicles in the winter time (we get almost as cold as you guys in northern canada/alaska) But these cartridges was probably just the right size no chance of overdoing it...

[Rabbit on Roids]

thats why i use only a tiny shot. and i only use it on my junk audi because its so low on compression. my rabbit will not start with ether, it fights the starter too much.