Another questions for you fellas. The AVX (ECO) has the following gears. 3.455/1.944/1.286/.909/.745 Final Drive 4.250The AGS has the following gears. 3.455/1.944/1.286/.909/.745 Final Drive 3.941So the only difference between the two is the final drive which will essentially still lower rpm over all but will have the same gearing between each gear, correct?
dude...you're going at this from the wrong angle. Do you know why VW put a 4.25 to 1 ring and pinion in the ECOdiesel Jetta? Because the engines are DOGS! If you increase the power output of the engine you won't have to mess around with building a transmission you can just use an as is AGS, ACH, 4S, or AOP trans with a 3.94 to 1 ring and pinion. If you get a bigger engine like an AAZ, you can use a Mk3 gasser trans with a 3.67 to 1 ring and pinion and turn even less RPM on the highway. Now on the other hand, if you are going to race keep the AVX trans and put a 9A gearset in it. If you want to run better, increase the power and decrease the RPM drop between shifts. Go to scirocco.org/gears and compare the gearsets on the various boxes.
Quote from: ilikevwdiesel on September 11, 2009, 09:25:23 pmdude...you're going at this from the wrong angle. Do you know why VW put a 4.25 to 1 ring and pinion in the ECOdiesel Jetta? Because the engines are DOGS! If you increase the power output of the engine you won't have to mess around with building a transmission you can just use an as is AGS, ACH, 4S, or AOP trans with a 3.94 to 1 ring and pinion. If you get a bigger engine like an AAZ, you can use a Mk3 gasser trans with a 3.67 to 1 ring and pinion and turn even less RPM on the highway. Now on the other hand, if you are going to race keep the AVX trans and put a 9A gearset in it. If you want to run better, increase the power and decrease the RPM drop between shifts. Go to scirocco.org/gears and compare the gearsets on the various boxes. I know most of you guys are shying me away from the AVX rebuild. I realize they had to put a shorter ring and pinion to compensate for the lack of power of the eco, but I also like the way the trans shift because most of the gears are closer. I'm not going to go crazy on power with this motor, or swap a bigger motor in the car, I'm simply going to add an exhaust, built pump and maybe an intake. I was surprised when George suggested to put a .89 fifth in the AGS if he rebuilt the AGS for me, because that really wouldn't gain me much in fifth. What ever trans i get, regardless of he condition, it's going to get rebuilt with a peloquin. I'm not going to have the trans out and not get it done while i can. Call me crazy for not doing it cheaply, but that's what i want. I'm going to talk it over with George tomorrow and see if we can finalize something. Bottom line is that even though it isn't critical that this car gets back on the road, I want it back on the road in a few weeks and if I end up keeping the AVX and maybe doing a .71 5th in the future then i can live with that. I did do the calculators and you're right, the 3.94 will drop the rpm more than putting a .71 in the AVX, the 3.94(.75 fifth) drops it about 220rpm @ 65mph, while the 4.25 w/.71 fifth only drops it about 160rpm @ 65mph, in comparison to the original 4.25(.75) AVX setup. And actually Georges suggestion of the AGS with a .89 fifth comes out to be 274 rpm higher than the original AVX set up, so that's not going to work. So how about this idea, have George swap a 3.94 final in my AVX, then i would have the same exact set up as an AGS and i wouldn't have to alter my reverse switch. I would be a little more doggy of course but all the more reason for me to put an LDA pump on it.
that's a good idea, then you'd have a ***in trans and all you'd have to do is get a good pump and a straight exhaust and you'd run a lot smoother. sell the AVX ring and pinion on the vortex for big bux to a racer.