New 6.7 L Ford setup

[zozie]

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/first-look-fords-new-6-7-liter-v-8-scorpion-power-stroke-diesel-engine.html

A very interesting and well detailed article.

[lord_verminaard]

The engine itself looks like an utter abortion though... 

Brendan

[Turbinepowered]

I like the note about their certifying it for B20. 

[foxracer1]

The VNT turbo has 2 compressor wheels! garrett is puttin some r&d into their work.

[burn_your_money]

What ever happened to the KISS theory. DANG.

[nokivasara]

The VNT turbo has 2 compressor wheels! garrett is puttin some r&d into their work.

The first jet engine also had a dual-entry centrifugal compressor back in 1939....
This is the first one I've seen in a car/truck though.
Nice to see something new, with the exh manifolds between the cylinder banks!
Does anyone have any hp/torque numbers?

[clbanman]

What ever happened to the KISS theory. DANG.

In large part, government regulations. 

[Rabbit on Roids]

why doesnt ford get a good design and stick with it? instead of making something new every year. oh yea, thats right, ford doesnt know how to come up with a good design.

the duramax is the same basic platform that came out in 2000. its not a wildly different engine from the first ones, just more electronics and stuff.

im not sold on that turbo tho. looks cool, but it just looks too complicated. like the rest of that 6.7. its gonna be funny when GM drops the 7.4 Duramax. LMAO 

[Turbinepowered]

why doesnt ford get a good design and stick with it? instead of making something new every year. oh yea, thats right, ford doesnt know how to come up with a good design.

the duramax is the same basic platform that came out in 2000. its not a wildly different engine from the first ones, just more electronics and stuff.

im not sold on that turbo tho. looks cool, but it just looks too complicated. like the rest of that 6.7. its gonna be funny when GM drops the 7.4 Duramax. LMAO 

That would be because Isuzu designed the Duramax, not GM.

All of Ford's "new every year" iterations have been designed by International. And you also forget just how flipping long the 7.3 Powerstroke was available: all through most of the Nineties and into the early two thousands. The 6.0 was a rush job out the door as new regulations loomed, and it shows. The 6.4 was primarily a marketing gig to get people to buy Ford diesels again, as once something has a reputation for fail it's hard to sell the fixed version even if it's excellently fixed (See also GM 5.7 diesel).

The Cummins 24v common rail engine (added stuff to meet emissions and make more power without changing the basic architecture) is made of fail. It's finicky, over complicated, and likes to throw codes all over the place.

[OM617]

I like how they stole GM's "Exhaust in the valley" idea and rushed it into production first.

[Rabbit on Roids]

yea, GM/Isuzu decides to postpone production of the 4.5 Duramax and ford steals the idea and makes it first. but the 4.5 had the design first, so it doesnt really matter, it just shows us fords true colors.

[Turbinepowered]

yea, GM/Isuzu decides to postpone production of the 4.5 Duramax and ford steals the idea and makes it first. but the 4.5 had the design first, so it doesnt really matter, it just shows us fords true colors.

Everyone steals from everyone at that level, really.

[maxfax]

Everyone steals from everyone at that level, really.

So true!! Back when Chrysler was devloping the slant 6 they stole their cam profile from GM who has happened to steal it from Porsche.. Anymore, though, it isn;t always who has the new design first, but who builds it to actually work..

[Turbinepowered]

Everyone steals from everyone at that level, really.

So true!! Back when Chrysler was devloping the slant 6 they stole their cam profile from GM who has happened to steal it from Porsche.. Anymore, though, it isn;t always who has the new design first, but who builds it to actually work..

Who builds it first, and that they can make it just different enough that they don't get hammered for patent infringement.

[Rabbit on Roids]

Everyone steals from everyone at that level, really.

So true!! Back when Chrysler was devloping the slant 6 they stole their cam profile from GM who has happened to steal it from Porsche.. Anymore, though, it isn;t always who has the new design first, but who builds it to actually work..

Who builds it first, and that they can make it just different enough that they don't get hammered for patent infringement.

yea, thats the big thing, not getting it for copyright infringement. so ford stole the exhaust in the valley thing, but i bet the 4.5 d-max is going to be a better engine (eventually). did anyone get a load of that compound single turbo? that thing looks complicated and fail prone. along with the rest of the engine. haha. but at least they have 6 head bolts per cylinder now, instead of the 4 they used to use. idk why they strayed away from that design. i know the idi engines had lots of head bolts and not many head gasket failures, and you never really heard of early power stroke head problems either.i think they still had lots of bolts too. but the 6.0 and 6.4 had only 4 head bolts per cylinder. thats what vw's biggest problem is, there arent enough head bolts! everyone thinks VW's need bigger head bolts, but they dont, they just need more..