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• need help identifying an IP by derekp on 24 Aug, 2009 05:44
• P/N on it is 0-460-494-182
  I bought it believing its a 1.6 TD pump. and I'm wanting to replace my 92 ECO pump with this one.
  But my ECO pump has longer "check valves" (I believe thats what they're called) those fittings on the back of the pump that the lines screw onto.
  The pump I bought, well, those fittings are much shorter than the ones on my ECO pump.
  
  I looked in the faq and found the listing of IP pump numbers but theonly info it provides is "VW - CY/JR engine" and that doesnt mean much to me.
  Can anyone give more info on this pump number or why its outlet fittings are shorter than mine?
  thanks!
• #1 by arb on 24 Aug, 2009 05:52
• Got a photo? Its worth 1,000 words. I see from the part number it has 9mm plungers (6th digit)
• #2 by derekp on 24 Aug, 2009 06:16
• I'll take a photo of my ECO pump (in car) and the recently purchased Turbo-IP pump tonight if I can and post them.
  I have not yet been able to read the numbers on my current ECO pump.
  
• #3 by arb on 24 Aug, 2009 06:28
• Quote from: derekp on 24 Aug, 2009 06:16

  I'll take a photo of my ECO pump (in car) and the recently purchased Turbo-IP pump tonight if I can and post them.
  I have not yet been able to read the numbers on my current ECO pump.
  
  

  
  Photos are good. I've never seen anyone on-line have a full break down of that the part numbers mean beyond the plunger and a few other details.
• #4 by burn_your_money on 24 Aug, 2009 14:19
• You got the right pump. The Ecos have longer delivery valves then the TD pumps. You will need to either get TD injection lines, bend your lines or swap the complete delivery valve assemblies over from one pump to the other. The proceedure is outlined in the mk3 bentley. You will need new copper washers, any diesel should should be able to get them for you.
• #5 by derekp on 24 Aug, 2009 17:10
• can anyone shed light on why the eco had the longer delivery valves? I thought they had check valves in them - so do the regular pumps have that as well?
  I did get the lines with the pump BTW...
  thanks!
• #6 by fatmobile on 24 Aug, 2009 19:25
• I think the longer delivery valves work with the 2-stage injectors, for a smoother burn.
• #7 by 1outof5 on 25 Aug, 2009 01:35
• I don't know how realiable this site is but I found the origine of my spare pump through it:
  
  http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm
• #8 by gigaz2 on 25 Aug, 2009 02:37
• according to bosch:
  -golf mk2 1.6TD 51KW engine code:MF
  -Nissan Santana 1.6td 53KW engine code:CY
  
  has a 9mm plunger, rated to 4500rpm (engine)
• #9 by burn_your_money on 25 Aug, 2009 04:34
• Quote from: fatmobile on 24 Aug, 2009 19:25

  I think the longer delivery valves work with the 2-stage injectors, for a smoother burn.
  

  
  Except that the eco diesels have the exact same injectors as the regular TDs. I don't know why bosch did what they did
• #10 by derekp on 25 Aug, 2009 04:56
• The Eco diesel does not have 2 stage injectors. Hmmmm...
• #11 by arb on 25 Aug, 2009 06:09
• Quote from: 1outof5 on 25 Aug, 2009 01:35

  I don't know how realiable this site is but I found the origine of my spare pump through it:
  
  http://www.vepump.cn/English/CZB.htm
  

  
  Very interesting site.  I see VM Motori uses our pumps too.
• #12 by Rabbit on Roids on 25 Aug, 2009 08:23
• Quote from: derekp on 25 Aug, 2009 04:56

  The Eco diesel does not have 2 stage injectors. Hmmmm...
  

  
  the AAZ is the oldest engine to have 2 stage infectors...
• #13 by 1outof5 on 26 Aug, 2009 07:44
• Quote from: gigaz2 on 25 Aug, 2009 02:37

  according to bosch:
  -golf mk2 1.6TD 51KW engine code:MF
  -Nissan Santana 1.6td 53KW engine code:CY
  
  has a 9mm plunger, rated to 4500rpm (engine)
  

  
  actualy the "CY" engine is also in the Golf MK1 Turbo diesels