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So im thinkin' of painting...
by
8v-of-fury
on 24 Jul, 2009 00:08
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Now I'm going to explain my thought process, and tell me if it sounds solid or not
What i will do is roll on a solid base coat of Tremclad, wetsand (??) it with maybe a 400 to get it smooth all over, and then apply the finishing coat of rattle can with a final wetsand of 2000....
Will the last sand ruin the coat of paint? i did a portion today with 1000 grit.. Smoooth as glass! so i figure if i did a light sand with 2000 after my spray coat, it will leave it smooth as a babies bottom, and lookin good.
What do you guys all think? I would attempt to spray the car wit ha gun, but i ain't got no CO2
I think it should come out quite nice. I'm in the process of filling in the body line to make a cleaner, sleeker look. its gonna be nice
I've started with the base coat gloss black.. lol shoulda started this thread first.... lmao Tell me what you think, and if i should change some techniques early on or w.e
Criticism is WELCOME! i want to learn how to do this properly
thanks guys
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#1
by
maxfax
on 24 Jul, 2009 01:05
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FLAMES!!! You need flames!!!!!
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#2
by
drrtybyl
on 24 Jul, 2009 01:30
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It all depends on what you're looking for. If you want "professional" results, lots of practice with a gun and compressor using cheap paint is a good idea... Then the process becomes lots of layers with clearcoat, wetsanding, polishing, clearcoating, ad infinitum...
I think the tasteful roadwarrior/hood look is a refreshing alternative to the sea of robotically finished factory boxes being driven around... Have you considered welding large spikes or horns to the bumper supports?
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#3
by
theman53
on 24 Jul, 2009 08:38
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Why is it BLACK? Where is the army green...I am dissappointed, unles this is just practice.
I was going send you a roll of 3M masking tape for free when you put the star on the hood.
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#4
by
8v-of-fury
on 24 Jul, 2009 10:27
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Lucas, I understand your disappointment.. I was thinking to myself "What will this car look like with a baby blue interior and army green paint!?" So I decided to stay with a trusty black. However moving from semi-gloss in to the Gloss region
HAHA FLAMES!! I don't think i could pull off Flames. lol
Well what i am looking for is a NICE paint job for cheap, and easy work. lol That's why i figured a nice thick coat of roller, sand it down, rattle can it on there lightly, and for the finishing touch 2000 Grit.
Will using the 2000 grit after i lay down the Spray paint wreck the paints finish, or will it sort of buff it and make it smooth?
My last attempt at painting was JUST semi-gloss rattle cans.. nothing else.. lol I want this one to look better. I also want my car to stop being embarrassing
lol
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#5
by
jtanguay
on 24 Jul, 2009 10:43
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definitely use 2000 grit when using black. any sort of imperfection will show up on a black paint job... i can see the ripples from the sample paint job you have. sanding that down with 2000 grit should make it silky smooth and then the final paint job should look beautiful. you might even want to try 1500 grit then 2000 grit, as 2000 grit might take a while to scuff the shine. i can't remember how long you have to wait to wax it, but i think its a month or two.
did you prime it? i highly recommend using tremclad primer. it goes on orange. i had a paint job that lasted 3 years without peeling with that stuff
what are you using to paint it? spray can? i used one of those cheapie spray kits from princess auto (you need a good compressor) and i didn't bother putting a water/oil separator inline, though you should if you want excellent results, and they sell for relatively cheap anyways. tremclad by the can is much cheaper
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#6
by
drrtybyl
on 24 Jul, 2009 11:09
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Ya, two layers of paper is a good idea if you want the surface to be really even. If it's not as shiny as you'd like after wetsanding, you should be able to find a drill buffing attachment at an auto parts store for cheap -- use that with some polish on the whole car.
Auto paint is really expensive stuff.. Budget line surface primer/sealer/base/clear for a small/medium size car runs $150-200... Fancy brands like PPG are wayy more
The labor and materials involved make nice paint jobs seem a lot more reasonably priced.
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#7
by
aidan
on 24 Jul, 2009 12:36
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My golf is nato green, done with a roller. Only did half the masking too as it got boring. Looks fine in rain or from far away. want a photo?
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#8
by
theman53
on 24 Jul, 2009 17:04
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I have painted a couple cars/parts. The one thing I know is make sure the metal and any bondo looks good before you even start painting. If you have a good surface to start with the rest is usually easy. I bought all my stuff in one shot and with the paint guns, compressor, fittings, seporators, air lines and everything else I had about 750.-- in it. But I bought 3 paint guns when now I realize I could have done with 2 or maybe even the one. I figure every job I do now is just time and paint cost, it was well worth my investment I feel. I also think that the better the paint the easier it is to get a good finish, but maybe that is because I am still a beginner.
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#9
by
8v-of-fury
on 24 Jul, 2009 22:40
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Well for some reason when i did the roof the little fibers from the roller came out in it
but when i did the back it came out like a frigging mirror almost. i mean a small amount of texture to it. but i am fine with that
I think if i just make sure i have enough paint on my roller the bristles will not come out in the paint.. Its just when the brush gets too dry and the paint so tacky that it pulls them off eh? The back portion i did it with a well covered roller and it came out with a perfect finish... Maybe that's all i have to do, is that eh?
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#10
by
bvolks73
on 24 Jul, 2009 23:35
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#11
by
jtanguay
on 25 Jul, 2009 14:08
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Well for some reason when i did the roof the little fibers from the roller came out in it but when i did the back it came out like a frigging mirror almost. i mean a small amount of texture to it. but i am fine with that I think if i just make sure i have enough paint on my roller the bristles will not come out in the paint.. Its just when the brush gets too dry and the paint so tacky that it pulls them off eh? The back portion i did it with a well covered roller and it came out with a perfect finish... Maybe that's all i have to do, is that eh?
your just using the wrong type of roller then. you'll need to get a high quality foam one.
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#12
by
catlin_cava
on 25 Jul, 2009 16:48
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2 words: hot pink
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#13
by
jasonsansfleece
on 25 Jul, 2009 21:55
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Take a piece of duct or packing tape, two-three feet long. Roll the paint roller up and down the tape and all the hairs that might end up in your paint job are stuck to the tape.
Buy the most expensive short nap roller you can find. Its only a couple of extra bucks. Cheap considering the better finish.
Guy
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#14
by
8v-of-fury
on 27 Jul, 2009 09:50
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Well actually, what i found works from Wally-World is a foam roller for acoustic plaster sprayed ceilings
I never thought a gloss finish would look good, but it does
lol