Author Topic: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?  (Read 16450 times)

June 27, 2009, 11:54:15 pm

Pre95

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 81
Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« on: June 27, 2009, 11:54:15 pm »
I don't even know what oil is in the car currently, other then that it's black.
81 Rabbit Diesel - 250k and climbing :)

Reply #1June 28, 2009, 12:19:36 am

rabbitman

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 2788
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 12:19:36 am »
I like delo 400 15w-40 with 1/2 a quart of lucas oil stabilizer, I like thick oil ;D.

My latest mix was the delo with hy-per lube oil suppliment, I hate it. I used to cruise at 2500rpm and have 65psi oil pressure, as soon as I started using the hy-per at the same ratio it dropped to 45psi.

Next oil change is gonna be maybe a full quart of lucas ;D.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #2June 28, 2009, 12:41:36 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 12:41:36 am »
you can run normal 30wt in these engines, and have almost nothing for oil pressure, then dump some lucas in there and have more oil pressure then you know what to do with.

Reply #3June 28, 2009, 01:25:22 am

OM617

  • Guest
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 01:25:22 am »
If you add Lucas, you're using the wrong oil and causing damage.

Oil additives should never be used.

Reply #4June 28, 2009, 05:40:44 am

carrizog60

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 978
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2009, 05:40:44 am »
whys that?
vw golf gti G60--vw passat 1.9td gt2052v
yamaha vmax 1200- yamaha tdm 850
Portugal

Reply #5June 28, 2009, 05:48:52 am

OM617

  • Guest
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2009, 05:48:52 am »
They are useless at best, sometimes harmful. A quart of oil is already more than half additives. Adding your own on top of it can conflict with the oil maker's intended effects, producing negative results like foaming (Lucas), sludge (anything with PTFE) and oil starvation (any oil thickener).

The oil companies have over a billion dollars towards R&D of their oils, do you really think any consumer knows better than them because a bottle on parts store shelf says it can perform some miracle?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2009, 05:52:23 am by OM617 »

Reply #6June 28, 2009, 06:29:25 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2009, 06:29:25 am »
I really like good old Rotella 15-40. It is cheap and really does a good job. It is also rated for diesel, which no matter which oil you go with should say on the bottle that it is diesel rated. I have used the synthetic rotella and others, but on an engine that has any leaks it usually makes it worse. I basically don't like quaker state and castrol for brands and have usually always come back to Rotella or Valoline for conventional oils.
Whatever you like that is what you should use just make sure the rating is approved for diesel.

Reply #7June 28, 2009, 07:03:05 am

lovinthedeez

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 489
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2009, 07:03:05 am »
X2 for the rotella.  its stocked at most wal marts ::), super cheap,  and my 1.6 n/a with well over 200K on the clock loves it ;D
location:  ashland, oregon US

Reply #8June 28, 2009, 08:12:01 am

burn_your_money

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 8999
  • Personal Text
    Bright, On
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2009, 08:12:01 am »
Rotella for me as well. Synthetic in the winter for easy start ups
Tyler

Reply #9June 28, 2009, 08:24:31 am

Dakotakid

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 1240
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2009, 08:24:31 am »
Walmart also carries Ford's Motorcraft 15/40 in the orange 5 quart container and I have been using this off and on. Last winter, it was like $2.00 less than what 5 quarts of Rotella pencils out to. I figured: it's good enough for Ford's warranty on their elaborate diesels! No ill effects in me cars.
The mask and the shot(s) are actually an IQ test. If you are wearing or circulating, you just failed the test. I can't feel sorry for you.

Reply #10June 28, 2009, 12:37:45 pm

monomer

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 414
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2009, 12:37:45 pm »
rotella-t



the white container. for synthetics, it's eneos or royal purple. - rotella's "synthetic" is a normal group 3 oil, not a full syn.
-1983 Rabbit LX 1.6/1.9 VNT build


Michigan Volkswagen Enthusiasts
www.michiganvw.org

Reply #11June 28, 2009, 01:45:57 pm

airhead

  • Guest
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 01:45:57 pm »
What is the difference between normal oil and diesel rated oil anyway? Does it make any real difference if you use petrol engine oil in a diesel engine?

Reply #12June 28, 2009, 02:19:34 pm

monomer

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 414
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2009, 02:19:34 pm »
What is the difference between normal oil and diesel rated oil anyway? Does it make any real difference if you use petrol engine oil in a diesel engine?

yes, it does.



a diesel rated oil is rated to suspend soot particals
-1983 Rabbit LX 1.6/1.9 VNT build


Michigan Volkswagen Enthusiasts
www.michiganvw.org

Reply #13June 28, 2009, 03:06:35 pm

Vincent Waldon

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 3255
    • My collection of HOWTOs
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2009, 03:06:35 pm »
The scientific fact is: VW says use any oil in the appropriate viscosity range for your climate with at least a CF rating.  Since that's a 1980's rating we go with what's available today:  anything with a CJ-4 rating or better.

That includes oils like  Delvac 1 and Shell Rotella T.  Elf makes some, Amsoil makes some, PetroCanada makes some.
Vince

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #14June 28, 2009, 05:41:26 pm

SolarSteve

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 264
Re: Suggested oil for high mile 1.6 N/A?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2009, 05:41:26 pm »
I use Rotella 15w40 and I change it every 2500 miles.  I can hear a difference right after the oil change!
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A