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Reply #15September 05, 2005, 07:42:03 am

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2005, 07:42:03 am »
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Well, I guess I've revealed what my next project is...  :oops:

There's no hate here, Bro! Your project sounds way-cool to me. In fact, I have a friend in Chico, Cali who races a 240 in SCCA's ITB class. That thing's a tank as you say, but I'm constantly amazed at how quick it is and how well it handles.

Definitely major cool points in my book!  :D
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Reply #16September 05, 2005, 02:39:35 pm

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2005, 02:39:35 pm »
We had a Volvo mechanic at the VW dealership that I used to work for, he had a very faithful group of customers, some have had the cars for 400,000 miles or more.  One day he had a D24T in the shop, and I asked him about how they performed.  His face lit up and said that he loved these engines, he would turn the fuel and boost up a little and they were faster than the 2.3 Turbo gasser versions.   :shock:

There is a used car lot here in town that usually has quite a few Volvos, as soon as he gets a coupe in there I'm snatching it up, diesel or otherwise!   :twisted:

Always wondered how a solid-axle car like a Volvo can out-handle my solid-axle Camaro.  My Camaro feels like a tractor compared to that mechanic's personal 240 sedan with a turbo.  :?:

Brendan
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Reply #17June 06, 2008, 08:06:06 am

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A mercedes 190D can be stripped to near 2000lbs and has great handeling.


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Forget the Supra. They weigh more than 3000 lbs, and I don't care what you have going in terms of mods, there is no 1.6L IDI diesel that will make that thing move at all. If you want to do a Supra diesel, use a 1.9L TDI. An Audi turbodiesel five or Volvo turbodiesel six would have the power but would not bolt up to any VW 4-cylinder bellhousing kits.

For the same reason, the Porsche 924 swap is not nearly as easy as most people think. The 2.0L VW engine used in the early 924s had was an Audi design, and used the Audi bellhousing bolt pattern--which is different than the one used by VW diesels and gassers. It IS the same as the pattern used on the Audi turbodiesel inline five, and people have definitely swapped gasser Audi fives into 924s so I know a turbodiesel five would fit OK. The Audi five and Volvo six cylinder diesels both use the same internals as the VW IDI diesels and turbodiesels (respectively), so all the mods work the same way. Either can be made very powerful.

Really, in my opinion (and I have put way too much thought into this!), the simplest and best car to build as a hot RWD diesel is a Volvo 240 coupe or sedan. Near-perfect weight distribution, lots of performance parts available, robust frames and trannies and drivetrains (they use a Dana 30 rear axle! It held up to my 5.0L Ford V8 so it would hold up to any turbodiesel you care to name), widely available, long lasting and tough, proven on rally and road race courses, very good looking with the right wheels, and of course the 2.4L turbodiesel six bolts right in to a very nicely geared 5-speed manual tranny. Also sounds WAY better than a diesel four, it is a very melodic-sounding motor. A BMW 3-series with the BMW 2.4L straight six turbodiesel (from a 524td) would also be an awesome bolt in swap, but much more expensive and harder to find than a Volvo, and I personally like Volvos much better anyway. Oh yeah, you can take a Volvo 242 or 244 down to about 2700 lbs if you build it right, have great rack and pinion steering, and of course are the safest thing to drive fast or slow, street or track. Bone stock, a Volvo D24T makes 106 hp and about 150 lb-ft of torque, and with boost and a hot pump, it is a piece of cake to get those numbers up way high.

Check this: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=23648&highlight=TDi244

Well, I guess I've revealed what my next project is... :oops:

Not to say that a Rabbit might be the best option anyway, if you are OK with FWD. Enough power combined with light weight and you'll have one quick little diesel.

Reply #18June 06, 2008, 03:59:02 pm

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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 03:59:02 pm »
I'll agree with you on that. W201's have great suspension, multilink rear is straight from an F1 car. Grab a 2.5 Turbo and you will have lots of fun.
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1985 Mercedes 300d Turbo
1987 Olds Delta 88 Royal Brougham
1992 Mercedes 190e 2.3
1984 Mercedes 190e
1983 Quantum TD
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1983 BMW 533i
1982 BMW 320iS
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