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April 15, 2009, 04:24:28 pm

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« on: April 15, 2009, 04:24:28 pm »
I have a 1.9td with the pump with the adjustable pump pulley and I can't get it timed right.  I will run through the process:  flywheel and cam TDC, insert dial indicator with 2.5mm preload on small gauge on big gauge.  rotate engine counterclockwise until gauge stops.  zero gauge.  rotate engine forwards to TDC, check reading, loosen 3 bolts on adjustable pump pulley and rotate pump shaft to .95-1.05mm, try to start and nothing.  i am doing something wrong with the gauge and i don't know what, someone surely knows what i am messing up?  thanks for your help.
Ben Spencer

Reply #1April 15, 2009, 06:18:07 pm

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 06:18:07 pm »
p.s. will it mess with my pump to remove the cruise control?
Ben Spencer

Reply #2April 15, 2009, 07:56:31 pm

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 07:56:31 pm »
When you are turning the pump shaft, are you rotating it clockwise or anti-clockwise?

I believe you should be going anti-clockwise.

If you are doing that, when you rotate the engine in the direction of rotation back to TDC, what does the gauge read?
Tyler

Reply #3April 16, 2009, 10:36:27 am

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 10:36:27 am »
i will try that, what about the cruise control?  do i have to use it?
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Reply #4April 16, 2009, 02:07:13 pm

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 02:07:13 pm »
Cruise control is hooked up to the accelerator pedal inside the car. I don't there is anything on the pump related to cruise.
Tyler

Reply #5April 17, 2009, 06:19:15 am

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 06:19:15 am »
there is all kinds of stuff hooked up to the pump that involves cruise control, i am talking about physically taking it off the pump, i am worried that it may be connected to something important internally to the pump that will alter the normal pump functions, should i just leave it alone?  thanks tyler for helping my retardedness.  i have called Giles and tried to talk to him about the problems but I think he is too smart and my brain is too small!
Ben Spencer

Reply #6April 17, 2009, 07:20:15 am

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 07:20:15 am »
Quote from: "spencebm"
there is all kinds of stuff hooked up to the pump that involves cruise control, i am talking about physically taking it off the pump, i am worried that it may be connected to something important internally to the pump that will alter the normal pump functions, should i just leave it alone?


Pretty sure Tyler is right here... the cruise control is vacuum-actuated using a diaphragm canister located up under the pedal cluster.

Perhaps you can post a picture or two of the stuff you're talking about and we can be of a bit more help.
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Reply #7April 20, 2009, 07:35:03 am

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 07:35:03 am »
I am saying that I will not be using the cruise control and that will removing the components on the pump affect anything?  Picture:

Ben Spencer

Reply #8April 20, 2009, 07:40:06 am

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 07:40:06 am »
Yup. standard AAZ pump, and none of the switches, dashpots, etc are related to the cruise control.

You can safely delete everything except the black vaccum actuator on the upper right of the picture... assuming everything is connected and working that's your fast idle for when the engine is cold and or the A/C is on.

The "how to make your 1.9 faster" thread in the FAQ explains deleting the throttle microswitch and additional fuel solenoid a bit.
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Reply #9April 20, 2009, 07:21:27 pm

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 07:21:27 pm »
thank you mr. moderator and thank you tyler for your help
Ben Spencer

Reply #10April 21, 2009, 10:25:06 am

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 10:25:06 am »
You better give me my tool back. :evil:
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