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#30 by jtanguay on 17 Mar, 2009 19:42
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Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted: -
#31 by 8v-of-fury on 17 Mar, 2009 19:46
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Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us
I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
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#32 by jtanguay on 17 Mar, 2009 20:08
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Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol: -
#33 by 8v-of-fury on 17 Mar, 2009 20:12
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Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic
my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
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#34 by jtanguay on 17 Mar, 2009 20:14
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Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out. not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
polish mechanics are famous for one thing. doing things on the cheap. this guy doesn't cost a lot. hes super cool and very honest. but man is he cheap :lol: knows ALL the tricks for the older VW/Audi's -
#35 by 8v-of-fury on 17 Mar, 2009 20:16
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Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out. not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
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#36 by jtanguay on 17 Mar, 2009 20:25
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Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out. not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
i'm trying to recall... its near the throttle plate area. he inserts this long allen type tool and turns it to adjust the mixture. VERY cool! unfortunately thats about all i know... i've just watched him do it. i bet the 'tex would have some info on this. he has a really good ear... he times engines by ear, and i swear they run VERY well using this technique, but it takes more time than with a dial gauge. -
#37 by theman53 on 17 Mar, 2009 20:30
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Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out. not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
Right now I am driving an 83 GTI and it is really fast. The guy I bought it off of has a yellow GTI that does 12.29 in the 1/4 mile. Yes. He took my TD exhaust mani and a crossflow head runs 20 ish boost welded spider gears and solid steel instead of coil overs in the rear when he is on the strip. That car is stupid fast...all original CIS. I got his leftover parts on the car I drive and it is fast. I usually get about 30-32 MPG as well. I just can't wait for my TD jetta to get going though :twisted: -
#38 by 8v-of-fury on 17 Mar, 2009 20:37
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Quote from: "theman53"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "jtanguay"Quote from: "8v-of-fury"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"Quote from: "subsonic"Quote from: "Turbinepowered"
I know enough about Carbs to know they are the work of the Devil and should be exorcised from any poor blighted car that ever passes into my possession with such an affliction.
And they make you fat.
The one exception of course would be a 1967 Dodge Charger fastback with a 440 6-pack or cross ram dual quads :twisted:
You'd still make much more power if you were fuel injected.
OH I KNOW YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP IN HERE AND GET ALL UP IN MY KOOL-AID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Dudddde!? FI? Seriously? WTF lol COME ONNN What ARE yoU TalKInG ABouT@!?
so what if its better... Carburetors will forever be SUPERIOR! lmao Anything with Absolutely no computer is the way to go.. GOD i hatE computer cars!
what about manual fuel injection like on my '87 golf??? :twisted:
Seems we have a smart ass amongst us I completely forgot about Mech FI I have it as well on my 84. PITA lol CIS BAHHH!!! It's ok until you get a tiny vaccum leak you cant find then it idles at 1750! not only that but its Constantly injecting fuel.. just as bad as a carb for MPG... lol
lol not so! my dad had an ugly yellow golf 5 speed that went forever on a tank of gas!!! plus we had a polish mechanic do his magic to the fuel system and turned it into a mini sleeper. that thing was soooooo fast :lol: :twisted: my dad sold it and then the cops call.. guy didn't even change ownership and was driving it without insurance, etc. :shock: he also baffed the transmission and left it on the side of the highway! :lol:
I wish i had a polish mechanic my crap 1.7 is lucky to get 425kms on a tank.. pathetic.. and thats mostly highway when i judge it.. So he drove the piss out of it and then got your dad in trouble for it? what a douche lol. Well I dunno, was it a CIS-E? apparently they are a lot better for fuel than the CIS ones.. ive read anyway. I cant wait to swap the diesel in shortly! WOOHOO how many quotes in quotes do we have here? like 7? lol! keep quoting!! lol
if you wanna see efficient carb, check this out. not sure if he used a conventional carb or a modified one though... but very cool! 150 hp on a 2 cyl motor FTW!
lol keep it rollin :lol: the FI was just plain mechanical AFAIK. sounds like you might need to mess with timing, and mixture a little bit. i tried running rich and it was wayyy more powerful, but the spark plugs got fouled up pretty quick.
do you know how to adjust mixture? I kno how to do timing, but i cant even fathom mixture on that thing gotta mess with the fuel dist behind the battery im assuming?
Right now I am driving an 83 GTI and it is really fast. The guy I bought it off of has a yellow GTI that does 12.29 in the 1/4 mile. Yes. He took my TD exhaust mani and a crossflow head runs 20 ish boost welded spider gears and solid steel instead of coil overs in the rear when he is on the strip. That car is stupid fast...all original CIS. I got his leftover parts on the car I drive and it is fast. I usually get about 30-32 MPG as well. I just can't wait for my TD jetta to get going though :twisted:
Well i have a 1.7 with 76 hp.. its fast for 76 hp but its not stupid fast. which i wish it was! lol but that's ok. I'm converting to the Slow Stove soon and i will have less then 50hp lol but phenomenal ECONOMY! well if i gettin 425 to a 40l tank then im oly gettin 10.6 l/100km and that translates to about 22mpg crap mileage and crap performance lol, what is wrong with the world
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#39 by Turbinepowered on 18 Mar, 2009 10:22
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Is your 1.7 CIS, CIS-Lamdba, or CIS-E?
If it's CIS, you adjust the mixture by turning a small screw hidden in the metering plate housing. I'll take a picture if you need one. If the mixture has never been adjusted you'll have to drill and tap out the steel plug over the screw.
CIS-Lambda and crappy economy could be the frequency valve or the oxygen sensor, more likely the latter.
CIS-E, it's probably your oxygen sensor. Replace, then adjust the mixture to get the correct DPR current.
I just bought a 2400 pound Quantum Coupe with a 1.6L gas engine. Standard CIS, but she'll do 35mpg (~6.5L/100km) combined cycle. Fast enough for me, considering my standard of comparison is a bus.
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#40 by 8v-of-fury on 18 Mar, 2009 20:27
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well i don't have a O2 sensor so i am guessing CIS.. lol
I doubt its ever been adjusted.. but i think the problem is more likely just this vaccum leak, probably could use a tune-up.. and timing is more than likely off.
Pictures would be nice if you have them!
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#41 by jtanguay on 18 Mar, 2009 20:46
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yea vacuum problems are definitely a problem... i remember our '87 golf had mad vacuum issues and that was just in 2003. replaced a lot of hoses etc...
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#42 by 8v-of-fury on 18 Mar, 2009 20:53
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Well I will be most likely keeping the 1.7 in the garage for the day i get another Mk1 OR MAYBE i will use it to make my go kart out of!! Lmao holy hell man, what do they have like 90 ft.lbs? that with the 4K trans and only a 6-800 lb go-kart!! YOU WOULD BE A FRIGIN ROCKET!! LOL
So I will probably replace all that good stuff when it comes time BUT FOR NOW I will be going to reliable simplistic diesel
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#43 by subsonic on 18 Mar, 2009 21:25
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#44 by 8v-of-fury on 18 Mar, 2009 21:48
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oh HELLLLLLLLL YEAH.. I dunno, personally it looks to me that the mustang is out handling that charger like a MAN. lol
Steve McQueen is a wayy better driver imho The charger flops around a lot on those roads, and the mustang keeps it pretty level. Did you notice the charger nose dive ever jump? lol heavy ass thing engine alone weighs 3 ton