performance clutches pro's and cons please

[gldgti]

hey guys,

my clutch noise has not been fixed with the replacement of the release bearing, so now i'm going to have to pull the trans... i dont really feel like it though.

if i'm going to, im gonna make sure i do the big end crank seal (this time, i forgot last time).... now i'm still running a standard clutch in my aaz - 210mm - should i upgrade to something like this?

http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=141.613

i have never used a solid hub clutch before - can anyone advise me about how much feel i will lose, and how it will be? i'm not so worried for myself, but my partner is still learning to drive and i dont want to make it too difficult.

any advise is appreciated.

cheers
aydan

[truckinwagen]

solid center clutches make for hard launches, which can lead to premature failure of driveline parts if you don't know what you are doing.

for a street driven car(grocery shopping going to work etc...) I would recommend getting a sprung center clutch, you can still get performance clutches with sprung centers, you can even get a three puck sprung center clutch for vw's.

[gldgti]

know who makes them?

[commuter boy]

The normal upgrade is the stock Sach/Valeo clutch and a 16v pressure plate.  The 020 trannies aren't known for their strength, putting more stress on them with a "racing" clutch isn't going to help I imagine.

[gldgti]

true... i guess i'll just have to stick with what i've got and see what happens

[53 willys]

I would get a sprung hub FOR SURE!!! solid hubs are SOOOO rattley on a diesel..and if you daily drive it you will get sick of it FAST.

I don't have a solid hub on my VW...but I Do on my cummins and it's BURLY!! lugging it=BIG VIBRATIONS!! you have to keep the RPM's up all the time to keep it from vibrating like crazy...
sprung hub for the win!!!










unless it's a full on race car.

my .02

[Jettagli16v]

I agree with the above sentiments...
A friend of mine just took me for a ride in an 85 golf 1.8 with a similar clutch.
You cannot launch in first without spinning tires, and second and third chirp every time as well.

Racing clutches are good and bad for the following reson:
The clutch plate has no give, and the friction material is VERY stiff.
That means instead of half of the pedal travel between beginning and end of engagement zone, you have 1/8 or 1/16 of the travel for engagement.
It operates like an electric toggle switch.

I highly reccomend the Sachs sport clutch.
(and most of the ones available now are Sport replacements) I used one of these for 4 years in my 2.0 Mk3 GTi. You have the extra clamping force you are looking for, without the additional stress (on you, the drivetrain, and the poor girl trying to learn a stick!)

You already have the big PP, I would leave that (assimung it is OK, but I dont know the back story on your noise) and just get a Sachs Sport disc.

My $0.017 (Thats my two cents with the conversion to Aussie dollars!)

-Brad

[commuter boy]

Spend the $10 while you have it apart and replace the clutch pushrod and tranny shaft seal at the same time you do the rear main.  Really cheap insurance.

[gldgti]

indeed...

i changed the throwout bearing and it changed nothing, haha.

trans out on the weekend..... actually i think i will pull the whole engine/tranny as a unit, swap in my new engine mounts and do the clutch stuff while the engine/tranny is out of the engine bay so i can makse sure it goes back together nicely.

[theman53]

Is there a 4 or 6 puck ceramic clutch that has a spring hub? I would like to go that route if possible.

[spencebm]

so what is the best dual spring clutch disk you can get?

[53 willys]

I'm pretty happy with the way my clutchnet race clutch feels...you do have to give it more accelerator pedal on take off cause it grabs so hard... it will kill the car if your not ready for it.. :twisted:


it's a 6 puck sprung hub..
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=16090&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

[monomer]

A few member (Including myself) are using SPEC clutches available at 034 motorsports


I have a Stage 3 clutch here waiting to be installed. 6-puck Carbon; sprung.