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January 19, 2009, 06:24:36 pm

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« on: January 19, 2009, 06:24:36 pm »
my buddy and I are going to have a local shop plasma cut a main bearing girdle for me (thanks to MJF for the cad file)

the shop charges a minimum of an hours worth of shop time, so I can have about 10 made for the same price as one, I would be willing to have more made(up to 8 more) for other people.

I am not looking to make money on this, just the cost of materials(somewhere in the realm of $40) and shop time($100 divided by however many get made) plus shipping, which shouldn't be too bad, I think I can get them into a flat rate box with USPS

if anyone is interested shoot me an IM, I am planning to do this in the next week or so, as long as I can get enough people interested to make the shop charge reasonable.

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Reply #1January 19, 2009, 08:02:27 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2009, 08:02:27 pm »
that would be a killer deal... i might be interested!


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Reply #2January 19, 2009, 08:43:58 pm

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2009, 08:43:58 pm »
I am definitely interested.  I was going to start designing my own in the next couple of weeks.   :lol:  I would much rather purchase it at that price though.  :twisted:
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Reply #3January 19, 2009, 08:48:51 pm

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 08:48:51 pm »
well, I would like to have 8 orders, and I will wait to make them until then(I dint have enough cash for a full 10) and I will have to take money shortly before they are made
(the actual cost will be decided based on how many are interested.

shipping will be determined individually and packages will be shipped any way you guys want them to be( I am guessing that USPS will be cheapest)

so far two people are interested

P.S. I must note that these are in no way bolt up and go, you will have to find your own spacers and bolts, and if you want them to bolt to the block with more than just the oil pan bolts you will have to drill your own holes etc...
but the expensive machining and cutting will be done saving you lots of
money over the $500 ones that speed shops sell, and with a little time and effort they can be just as good or better performing.
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Reply #4January 19, 2009, 08:48:58 pm

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 08:48:58 pm »
Is it one piece...as I think it is? I still have my block in the basement and may go for it if we can get the other 8 people involved. When can it be completed? 40 dollars material total or each? If it is each, what are they using? For all the bigger it is I say they are probably making some money there. If it is each, will that price come down if you get all the people so they can get a big sheet and all waste they can scrap.

If it is a total of around 40/10 + 100/10 = 14 dollars ... then count me in no matter what actual shipping is.

Reply #5January 19, 2009, 08:56:58 pm

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 08:56:58 pm »
thats 40 bucks each for the 1/2 inch plate, it might turn out to be a little less, but I need a better estimate of how many we will be making before I can get those nubers, and this is straight from the steel supplier, at the same price the shop buys it, so it is cheaper than paying the shop for materials.

the $10 is the $100 shop time divided by the ten girdles that will be made in the hour I will have to pay for anyway.

so it looks like $50 plus shipping, which given the alternative is quite a deal.
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Reply #6January 19, 2009, 09:09:17 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 09:09:17 pm »
well, I got my hopes up. I was looking forward to 14 dollars. Maybe you could PM me the CAD as I have several machine and welding shops that I sell to. 2 of them have water jet cutters. It isn't a bad price but once shipping is added...I have WAY too much in my 1.6L build now and am trying to stay married as I finish it.  Also, how are they attached to the block then, do you have pics of what we are supposed to do?

Reply #7January 19, 2009, 09:11:26 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 09:11:26 pm »
So this is for the 1.6 block only?
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Reply #8January 19, 2009, 09:32:19 pm

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 09:32:19 pm »
Im in.

Cheap block insurance if you ask me. I already have too much poured into mine to NOT spend just a bit more to protect it.
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Reply #9January 19, 2009, 10:58:19 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 10:58:19 pm »
Quote from: "rallydiesel"
So this is for the 1.6 block only?


X2  and also, wrong place to ask but what does the girdle do and how would I install it?

if I can figure this out :roll: count me in for 1
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Reply #10January 19, 2009, 10:59:07 pm

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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 10:59:07 pm »
check out the "project jetta 200" for more details about the girdle.

they should fit the 1.6, 1.9 and any four cylinder vw gas or diesel with a shaft driven oil pump

here is the pic that MJF gave me of one installed



-Note, the holes for the extra bolts holding the girdle on will not be cut or countersunk, as you will have to decide how many you want and where, but doing so should be easy to do with a drill/drillpress and the appropriate bits.

-Owen
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Reply #11January 19, 2009, 11:05:24 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 11:05:24 pm »
I'm in for $40...let me know...sounds like a dang good deal!!
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Reply #12January 19, 2009, 11:08:26 pm

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 11:08:26 pm »
I'm interested, but how do the main caps attach? Do they have to be machined to allow the girdle to fit against them tightly?
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Reply #13January 19, 2009, 11:11:21 pm

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 11:11:21 pm »
the man caps sit beneath the girdle, you need to come up with a spacer to go on the main bolts between the caps and the girdle,
a piece of black iron pipe cut to the right length nice and square should do the trick nicely.
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Reply #14January 19, 2009, 11:15:28 pm

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 11:15:28 pm »
That thing is like 1/4" thick..

There goes my ground clearance

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