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December 21, 2008, 02:54:47 pm

rallydiesel

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« on: December 21, 2008, 02:54:47 pm »
What type of sender would I use to measure exhaust manifold pressure? I haven't been able to find any senders specifically for this purpose. I can't imagine just any sender would survive in those conditions. I think it would be a good gauge to have if you were experimenting with odd turbo set-ups.
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Reply #1December 21, 2008, 07:03:05 pm

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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 07:03:05 pm »
you could look for one off of a big rig... they have gauges for all kinds of things.


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Reply #2December 22, 2008, 05:04:10 am

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 05:04:10 am »
Can just use a reg Boost gauge. Use copper line instead of plastic. Coil about 5 or so feet of it then transition to plastic as it enters the cabin.
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Reply #3December 22, 2008, 06:37:46 am

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 06:37:46 am »
I wonder how long it will work befor it soots up.  Give it a week?
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Reply #4December 22, 2008, 07:04:28 am

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 07:04:28 am »
Quote from: "saurkraut"
I wonder how long it will work befor it soots up.  Give it a week?


yea... i wonder how the big rig ones don't get clogged up with them being dirty and all... or maybe they do?


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Reply #5December 22, 2008, 07:12:53 am

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2008, 07:12:53 am »
I don't think there's enough flow in the line for soot to travel.
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Reply #6December 22, 2008, 07:37:05 am

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2008, 07:37:05 am »
And if it did soot up you can just unhook at the plastic/ copper junction and blow through with compressed air.
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Reply #7December 22, 2008, 07:45:51 am

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 07:45:51 am »
There is indeed significant flow.  I don't know if the pressure gauges we use are bourdon tubes, or aneroid bellows, but that volume has to be filled to make the gauge move.

Bourdon Tube:


Aneroid cell:


My 1.6TD uses very little oil; 1/2 quart in 3,000 miles.  I run allot of boost, 25+ PSI.  The plastic tube that goes from my intake manifold to my boost gauge always traps oil, and oil even get into the gauge it self.  And the fitting thats in my manifold is 90 degrees to the flow, and air has to go virticle to get into the tube.

I can't imagine how much crap will go into that exhaust gauge line, and condense/coke...  Make you want to say Eeeww...
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Reply #8December 22, 2008, 08:48:53 am

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2008, 08:48:53 am »
here is what I did on my Cummins drive pressure gauge.



here is my set-up...I used a modified "T" to use the same hole as my pyro....electric or mech gauge it should work either way...my VW DP gauge is mech
the one in this pic is electric

1~3 feet SS tubing
2~home depot aluminum rod (drilled out/tapped to fit a 1/8" NPT compression fitting)
3~Brilo pad soot filter :lol:
4~a few 1/8" compression fittings
I have had to change the brilo 1 time since install..it was clogged up with soot.
Isspro engineer told me that for their brand gauges you DO NOT need a filter, I just felt like it could only help the sender last longer so I made my set-up for piece of mind.

Reply #9December 22, 2008, 08:59:45 am

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2008, 08:59:45 am »
Quote from: "saurkraut"
I wonder how long it will work befor it soots up.  Give it a week?

my heavy fueled cummins clogged up a filter in about 6 months...the filter was pretty much clogged completely...

Reply #10December 22, 2008, 09:59:49 am

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 09:59:49 am »
Thanks guys!
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
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1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

"ONCE YOU GO CLACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK"

Reply #11December 22, 2008, 04:22:26 pm

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2008, 04:22:26 pm »
What kind of drive pressures vs. boost do you see on your dodge? Do you have the factory turbo on it? Good exhaust?
84 4dr Rabbit 1.6 N/A sold to friend
86 Jetta TD getting raced out AHU 02A
98 Jetta TDI Malone tune stg 3
91 S10 305 TPI T56
86 S10 2WD Prerunner project.


Now offering turbo rebuilds. HP or stock. Any turbo you have i can rebuild it for ya.
Reseal injection pumps PM for det

Reply #12December 23, 2008, 05:51:00 pm

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2008, 05:51:00 pm »
Quote from: "foxracer1"
What kind of drive pressures vs. boost do you see on your dodge? Do you have the factory turbo on it? Good exhaust?



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