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October 28, 2008, 09:07:01 pm

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Losing brake fluid, any suggestions?
« on: October 28, 2008, 09:07:01 pm »
Since I've had my Golf, I've been adding a little brake fluid every once in awhile. Today brake pedal went to the floor and found out I was out of brake fluid. Where is the most likely place it is leaking from? I filled reservoir back up and it is working OK and I know I need to fix it, but I don't see any leaks. :shock: Suggestions??
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Reply #1October 28, 2008, 09:12:34 pm

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 09:12:34 pm »
If you're losing brake fluid and you don't see any leaks then the usual suspect is the master cylinder... leaking into the vacuum booster.

If you pull the vacuum booster hose you may be able to smell it/ see it... otherwise you could pull the M/C and see if the pushrod is wet.
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Reply #2October 28, 2008, 09:16:49 pm

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 09:16:49 pm »
Probably in the rear brake (one side or the other) from the wheel cylinder that sits at the top of the backing plate. Eventually, it will come out the bottom where the drum and backing plate almost meet.

The shoes can pick up the fluid and render the rear brake "gone."

Gently use a propane torch to remove the little screws that hold it on when you replace it. They tend to freeze in place very well.
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Reply #3October 28, 2008, 09:30:31 pm

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 09:30:31 pm »
Ty for the suggestions   Looks like this is my weekend project. I'm guessing M/C since the car sat for awhile before I started working on it.. We will see :?
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Reply #4October 28, 2008, 11:04:48 pm

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 11:04:48 pm »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
If you're losing brake fluid and you don't see any leaks then the usual suspect is the master cylinder... leaking into the vacuum booster.

If you pull the vacuum booster hose you may be able to smell it/ see it... otherwise you could pull the M/C and see if the pushrod is wet.


X2.

I see this all the time. You'll want to replace the booster too. It's sure to be full of brake fluid.

Reply #5October 28, 2008, 11:10:16 pm

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 11:10:16 pm »
Quote from: "Dakotakid"
Probably in the rear brake (one side or the other) from the wheel cylinder that sits at the top of the backing plate. Eventually, it will come out the bottom where the drum and backing plate almost meet.

The shoes can pick up the fluid and render the rear brake "gone."

Gently use a propane torch to remove the little screws that hold it on when you replace it. They tend to freeze in place very well.


last year i noticed one side near the rear tire was always 'wet'...  then my brakes were getting pretty bad... to the point that they weren't working anymore.  sure enough it was the rear cylinder.  changed that out and poof! working brakes!!!  be careful with the brake fluid as it will eat most anything it touches.

i hope its not your MC.   :(


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Reply #6October 29, 2008, 04:39:36 pm

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 04:39:36 pm »
ok if I need a M/C and vacuum booster what kind is best? are they expensive?
When I looked up M/C's they were pretty cheap.
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Reply #7October 29, 2008, 09:29:10 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 09:29:10 pm »
I literally just had the same kind of probelm. Mine turned out to be the rear pressure regulator literally broke. I lost a little at a time. It was slow at first then got to leaking pretty good.

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=16607

Check that out to consider that too. I got a pick n pull 10$ part vs new 130$.
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Reply #8October 29, 2008, 10:57:51 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 10:57:51 pm »
Ty Possum  I will be under the car in a few days, and that will be the first thing I look at. BTW where is it? :shock:
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Reply #9October 30, 2008, 09:06:53 am

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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 09:06:53 am »
its where all the brake lines meet at the back... can't miss it!

put some cardboard under the rear of the car and fill with brake fluid, then start car and give a few pedal depresses... then leave overnight and you should find some wet spots.


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Reply #10October 30, 2008, 10:01:36 am

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Reply #11October 30, 2008, 10:02:58 am

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 10:02:58 am »
Yea like JT said its in the rear on the driver side. Mine was a thing that looked like this:
http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Rabbit/Brake/235/2

Going through a junk yard I noticed different ones on newer vehicles.  Same basic idea of all the lines going in then out.
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Reply #12October 30, 2008, 11:43:58 am

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2008, 11:43:58 am »
i like these guys' prices!

http://www.germanautoparts.com/Volkswagen/Jetta/Brake/235/2

too bad its in the states... why did the dollar have to drop so fast!!!  :evil:


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Reply #13November 05, 2008, 06:01:53 pm

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 06:01:53 pm »
What's the verdict, Bob????
The suspense is a-killin' me!!!!
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Reply #14November 05, 2008, 06:30:11 pm

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 06:30:11 pm »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
too bad its in the states... why did the dollar have to drop so fast!!!  :evil:


Augh i hear ya  :cry:  :cry:
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