Author Topic: Need some advise - MK1 1.6D n/a refusing to start DIAGNOSED (Read 4619 times)

zozie · « **on:** October 02, 2008, 05:43:49 am »

Well my beloved jetta got sick for the first time this morning. I didn't drive it yesterday cause I toke my passat and this morning when I tried to start it, it fired first flip as usual but only ran for about 2 seconds then died and it won't start at all now. Just cranks. I didn't really have the chance to play with it this morning cause I had to leave for work but I assume glow power is out of the question as it fired right up the first time. The car has been my daily driver for the past year without any issues what so ever. I've done a Toronto-PEI round trip with it as well.......
Mechanic friend of mine sounds convinced it's the shut off solenoid.
what else do I check first? We'll see if I can play with it tonite as it's gonna be dark by the time I get home
Thanx

blkboostedtruck · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2008, 06:05:59 am »

sometimes the battery might not have enough cranking power? how old is battery? best to use a 1000CCA battery
also a glow plug or plugs may have burned out
when i have had starting issues during the winter i usually have a friend pull start me to get it fired up! always works!

Duane

zozie · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2008, 06:09:48 am »

the battery is brand new and it started up first stroke for about 2-3 seconds than died... I'll check the wire on the solenoid when I get home tonite.

gigaz2 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2008, 06:25:01 am »

I'll put my money on the selenoid, you can run a wire(preferably fused) straight from the batt in order to diagnose wiring issues.

if it still doesnt start, take the selenoid out, remove plunger and spring, reassemble and try to start it.
you won´t be able to stop the engine electrically, you can dump the clutch in 5th while braking to stall the engine or pinch the diesel feed line (difficult)

blkboostedtruck · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2008, 06:55:51 am »

Quote from: "zozie"

the battery is brand new and it started up first stroke for about 2-3 seconds than died... I'll check the wire on the solenoid when I get home tonite.

if you jump the fuel selonoid you should be able to hear it click! with out starting it just clip one lead to the terminal on the shutoff the with the other lead touch the positive side of battery an listen for a click!

if that turns out ok check glow plugs!
Duane

zozie · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2008, 07:05:50 am »

So connect the wire on the pump to the positive terminal of the batt?

blkboostedtruck · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2008, 07:29:20 am »

Quote from: "zozie"

So connect the wire on the pump to the positive terminal of the batt?

yep then listen for a click noise! if it makes that noise it's good!
then with a test light test if current goes to it with the key on!
Duane

madmedix · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2008, 08:03:34 am »

I was stranded by this once before I knew better...the connector on the stop solenoid (inside of the female spade connection) was full of green mould. A nail file fixed it.

zozie · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2008, 08:19:34 am »

Yeah I'll check that thanx. I hope it'll be that.

Smokey Eddy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:33:08 pm »

Yupp. Dito here. My solenoid lead broke off from the repeated wiggling so i put a new clip thing on there and used a nut to hold it to the solenoid. Solid as a rock now! Hope that solenoid solves her for you

zozie · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2008, 01:54:20 pm »

I can't wait to get home. I won't be able to sleep if I can't get it goin' :oops:
So from what you guys are saying they usually don't fail just get a bad connection? I guess it's still a better system than on the W123 Benz's with the vacuum shut off :lol: I drove one that was a bi*** to stop. Toke about 30 seconds to die slowly after removing the key.....

jtanguay · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:16:09 pm »

Quote from: "zozie"

I can't wait to get home. I won't be able to sleep if I can't get it goin' :oops:
So from what you guys are saying they usually don't fail just get a bad connection? I guess it's still a better system than on the W123 Benz's with the vacuum shut off :lol: I drove one that was a bi*** to stop. Toke about 30 seconds to die slowly after removing the key.....

:lol: bit of an auto turbo timer there :wink:

more than likely its the wiring. do yourself a favour and buy some of that electric grease or even solder the wire right onto the solenoid. it'll never fail that way, and it's not hard to take off. just heat and pull

zozie · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2008, 06:29:02 pm »

Well it wasn't the solenoid. My good $3 fuel filter went empy. It's leaking on the buttom. There was nothing left in it. I got a new one, filled it up with diesel, put it on and after about 20 secs of cranking she came back to life

I still got bubbles in the line. Is there a way to bleed it? I don't see a manual pump on mine...
Thanx for all the help

gigaz2 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2008, 07:19:06 pm »

no pump, its supposed to bleed itself if there isnt any leaks

Dakotakid · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2008, 09:00:02 pm »

$3 filter?

? Ahhh....dude?

??