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June 08, 2005, 10:09:25 am

Justin

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« on: June 08, 2005, 10:09:25 am »
So now that the cold weather season has passed why hasnt diesel fuel cost came below the cost of regular gasoline, actually wait a minute it has been 2-3 years since diesel was cheaper than regular unleaded gasoline,

what i want to know is why is diesel more expensive when it costs less to produce??

WVO by the end of the week for me and then start making my own biodiesel

what do you guys think of the diesel pricing? not to start a conspiracy but i think that the oil companies want to discourage the sales of diesels since diesels can save the consumer money

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Reply #1June 08, 2005, 04:21:24 pm

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Interesting hypothesis...But wrong!
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2005, 04:21:24 pm »
Oil companies don't control fuel prices as much as the oil traders do. The price fluctuates due to supply and demand. High demand + low supply = high price. Why the high demand?? Look no further than China. Everything's diesel and they are buying all available. Supply? Well the world's refining capacity is not high enough to meet with demand. So the fuel that is produced commands a high price. Maybe the oil companies don't want to build new refineries because they realise that crude oil is reaching it's end. But why aren't they investing in alternatives?? Work that one out for yourself!
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Reply #2June 09, 2005, 07:07:09 am

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 07:07:09 am »
well pretty soon i wont be but it still upests me, and i cannot wait to be running biodiesel and saving even more money, while emitting less emissions and if i use new oil then it will be helping our economy at the same time

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1985 GMC pickup 4x4 lift kit and runs 14.625 @ 91mph
1982 VW rabbit pickup 1.6L just rebuilt, 100mm cv's, 02A transmission
1997 Geo Tracker 1.9 TDI-M, variable gate turbo, Giles Pump

Reply #3June 09, 2005, 11:52:57 am

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Re: Interesting hypothesis...But wrong!
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 11:52:57 am »
Quote from: "toomanycars"
Oil companies don't control fuel prices as much as the oil traders do. The price fluctuates due to supply and demand. High demand + low supply = high price. Why the high demand?? Look no further than China. Everything's diesel and they are buying all available. Supply? Well the world's refining capacity is not high enough to meet with demand. So the fuel that is produced commands a high price. Maybe the oil companies don't want to build new refineries because they realise that crude oil is reaching it's end. But why aren't they investing in alternatives?? Work that one out for yourself!


What you're referring to is called peak oil. http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Reply #4June 09, 2005, 12:59:11 pm

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Re: Interesting hypothesis...But wrong!
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 12:59:11 pm »
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i better get goin making some bio fuel then!  :shock:

i can't believe we still use so much of the stuff and we still haven't put in place any type of feasible system to switch over to bio fuels and alternatives before we run out of crude completely.  :?

Reply #5June 09, 2005, 01:44:04 pm

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Re: Interesting hypothesis...But wrong!
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 01:44:04 pm »
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Quote from: "vwmike"
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i better get goin making some bio fuel then!  :shock:

i can't believe we still use so much of the stuff and we still haven't put in place any type of feasible system to switch over to bio fuels and alternatives before we run out of crude completely.  :?


I have no idea what will happen, but I do know that biofuels are only part of the solution. For now, they're better than straight crude, but could never satisfy the world energy needs.

Reply #6June 09, 2005, 02:09:40 pm

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 02:09:40 pm »
Biodiesel will certainly satisfy my energy needs though, as I am unloading my gas vehicles (except air-cooled)for diesels and am looking into commercial grade biodiesel to heat my home (still on heating oil with brand new 900liter tank). Tax credits should go a little way to offset the pricing. Hydrogen is dead.

Reply #7June 09, 2005, 02:26:10 pm

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 02:26:10 pm »
Vegetable Oil.  Cleaner, renewable, benefits all the farmland and domestic sales.
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Reply #8June 30, 2005, 10:52:52 am

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 10:52:52 am »
I use a bit of diesel to mix with sunfloweroil in my 1600D.. Dieselprices are at an all-time high at €1.06 per Liter (1 liter = 0.2641721 gallon [US, liquid]) for Shell diesel. I drive a ratio of 50-75% sunflower.
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Reply #9July 01, 2005, 04:26:28 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 04:26:28 pm »
1.06 Euro is USD1.27 and AUD1.68 . Wow...We are paying AUD1.27 for diesel and I thought that was bad enough! Our government "take" is 38c in excise and 13c in GST. I wonder how much money the oil traders are making on every litre they shuffle around on pieces of paper?
Regards, Peter.
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Reply #10July 02, 2005, 03:07:19 am

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2005, 03:07:19 am »
The Shell station I frequent hasn't changed its price since January at the earliest.  It's always 83.9 for regular and 86.9 for ultra diesel.  The other stations prices always go up and down like a yoyo and are rarely better than 83.9.  They are at 91.x right now...dunno how they manage to sell the stuff to be honest.

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