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May 22, 2005, 09:51:34 am

vwdriver1992

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« on: May 22, 2005, 09:51:34 am »
Hey guys not really looking for everyone to splurge info here but if any one has any cool links with alot of info about diesels in general. Dont be affraid to get techy on me I do alot of all my own work on my cars and I have had a bunch of 300hp turbo  4 bangers that were not factory equipt with turbos.

I really wanna get a used vw diesel engine so I can hook a generator head to it, I wanna get a 20kw or 25 kw gen head and they require about 30 to 35 hp at 1800 to 2000 rpm, I am wondering if I should go with a na diesel and put a turbo on it, or get a 1.6 or 1.9 turbo model.
 I would like to get a engine that doesnt need all kinds of computer crap to run

Would also like to try a WVO setup on it

thanks for any help

Reply #1May 22, 2005, 11:10:24 am

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2005, 11:10:24 am »
I looked into this a few years back. In fact that's what got me interested in VW diesels. Little did I know how I would grow to love them.

Anyway, this is what I remember. The biggest problem is acurate speed control. The automotive governor setup is not up to the task of keeping revs steady under varying loads. Also a multi-belt drive is best to isolate the generator from the pulses of the diesel. Also a working clutch disconnect helps with starting. Do some net searches, I know there are people who have done it out there.

I think it boils down to this. By the time you get a decent engine, generator and all the little stuff it will be much easier and cost effective to just buy a used diesel gen set. I have seen quite a few good ones for sale this time of year.

Have fun.

Reply #2May 23, 2005, 06:13:08 am

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2005, 06:13:08 am »
I was just reading about a guy's genset project over here:

http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/vwdiesel/   (I hope it's okay to cross-ref another list...)

Take a look in April 2005 and look for the user named "Area31 Research Facility"  He got it working a few weeks ago and I believe there are some pics floating around...
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Reply #3May 23, 2005, 12:52:30 pm

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2005, 12:52:30 pm »
Yeah, the min-max "automotive" governor is a problem.  Gensets often use isochronous governors, which have zero speed droop, meaning there is no change in engine RPMs with varying loads.
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Reply #4May 23, 2005, 08:36:15 pm

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2005, 08:36:15 pm »
Quote from: "dieselweasel"
Yeah, the min-max "automotive" governor is a problem.  Gensets often use isochronous governors, which have zero speed droop, meaning there is no change in engine RPMs with varying loads.


well i am not worried about hooking this up, I have seen this done before, i just need info on the motors its self, I have hooked a few gens up to engines thru direct drive with a love joy coupling that has a rubber insert and mount the gen on rubber mounts and it reduces the vibration, I have also used mechanical governers that hook to the belt drive that work fine. I think I am gonna use a electronic system this time that measures wattage, voltage,load, hz oil psi water temp, and its only 300 buxs plus a 20k ST head runs 450 to 500 and if I can get a used diesel for under 5 bills

I dont wanna use a belt to drive the gen cause with that much load it will go thru alot of belts even with a double belt.

I am not new to hooking gens to diesel, I just new to vw diesels, all my other gens have been hooked to industrial motors,

The industrial diesel i have some knowledge about but i not to sure about automobile diesel's when it comes to how they are controlled and tuning them

Plus i am a DIYer i build stuff even when i know it will cost the same if not more than it would be to just go buy it. I do it for the knowledge.
good site for gens building is http://utterpower.com/

Reply #5May 25, 2005, 08:41:14 am

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2005, 08:41:14 am »
Try searching through the VW diesel mailiing list archives:

http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/vwdiesel/

There are  a few here who have vw diesel gensets.

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