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#15
by
jtanguay
on 24 Jul, 2008 11:59
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what do you expect for $145??? i would expect a core pump, and nothing more. you should have asked him to leave the pump full and not ship it 'dry'. although many carriers (if not all) will probably not allow for that...
he didn't tell you the history of the pump either. it might have been run with veggie or a combination of diesel/veggy which would give the same problems. just ask Giles what a pump looks like when its been run with veggie for a while. (improperly cleaned veggie)
what you should have done was planned to have the pump sent to Giles, and then get it done right the first time. or if you dont have the cash, buy the seal kit & tool from dieselvw.com then crack open the pump using the thread in the FAQ and clean the pump out yourself.
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#16
by
VW_Commuter
on 24 Jul, 2008 13:39
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I have to agree with jtanguay. I've bought the entire seal kit and tool for that funky 3-flat bolt and plan to clean/reseal/replace camplate on my new to me Jetta's injection pump.
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#17
by
spencebm
on 25 Jul, 2008 06:55
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that information isn't helpful at all, you guys didn't read anything that I wrote. A core is a pump that hasn't been sitting in permafrost for 10 years and can be rebuilt. tell me something i don't already know. you guys just have too much money to throw around sending it to Giles.
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#18
by
jimfoo
on 25 Jul, 2008 07:09
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Well you know what they say about pictures....
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#19
by
VW_Commuter
on 25 Jul, 2008 08:03
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Well you know what they say about pictures....
Yeppers
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#20
by
subsonic
on 25 Jul, 2008 19:28
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So you brought your pump to the injection shop. Did you ask them to rebuild it, reseal it, or just get it funtional?
What have they done for repairs on it for 500 clams? What have they replaced, and what do they say is currently wrong with it?
What is it doing or not doing?
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#21
by
spencebm
on 26 Jul, 2008 10:50
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So you brought your pump to the injection shop. Did you ask them to rebuild it, reseal it, or just get it funtional?
What have they done for repairs on it for 500 clams? What have they replaced, and what do they say is currently wrong with it?
What is it doing or not doing?
total rebuild obviously. they have everything working right except the rpm hangs when you rev it. they think some of the internal fuel metering is stuck. they gave it back and i had to install and time it and i discovered this. they are now shipping it away to be looked at by someone else. mucho time and money will be put into this. that is all i know.
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#22
by
Dakotakid
on 26 Jul, 2008 10:57
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Well, for what is it worth. My local Bosch authorized (in business a long time....no competition locally) pump rebuilder wants $525 to do a rebuild on a pump which is still working (N/A 9 mm pump) and leaking.
I agree, prices are a *** nowdays. Make sure we continue the trend with McCain!!!!!!
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#23
by
subsonic
on 26 Jul, 2008 20:32
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So you brought your pump to the injection shop. Did you ask them to rebuild it, reseal it, or just get it funtional?
What have they done for repairs on it for 500 clams? What have they replaced, and what do they say is currently wrong with it?
What is it doing or not doing?
total rebuild obviously. they have everything working right except the rpm hangs when you rev it. they think some of the internal fuel metering is stuck. they gave it back and i had to install and time it and i discovered this. they are now shipping it away to be looked at by someone else. mucho time and money will be put into this. that is all i know.
Sorry it was not obvious, thats why I asked :roll: .
Anyway, if it was me, and a injection shop charged me 500 for a total rebuild, and it came back to me not working properly, that would be their responsibility. They are the professionals, thats why you paid them. Don't know what kind of deal you have going about the repair, but I would want a set price up front. You pay, they rebuild, pump works or they keep working on it until it does. Either way, it really does not sound like the sellers fault. If I sold a pump to someone as a core, and they brought it to a shop and it was torn apart and rebuilt and then did not function properly, I would have a very hard time taking it back. Too many variables in play.
Just my .02 cents.
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#24
by
spencebm
on 27 Jul, 2008 12:37
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why would i pay for a pump that couldn't be rebuilt, that is ridiculous. i would not sell someone a pump unless i was sure to be working right and if he didn't know then why wouldn't i get refunded? shady. I don't need any more crap from anyone, i just want a pump that isn't sh*&.
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#25
by
jimfoo
on 27 Jul, 2008 16:16
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If you read the FS post about the pump, it sounded perfectly fine, coming from a car that had a TB failure. The main problem is that SpenceBM didn't say anything about it for way to long. If it was rusty or wouldn't turn when I got it, I would have said something immediately. So that kind of is what is causing controversy on your side spencebm. But I will agree with you that in the add, the pump sounded like it needed absolutely no work and was ready to go.
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#26
by
spencebm
on 28 Jul, 2008 14:44
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i got everything to work well enough to take it to the pump rebuilder. it was impossible for me to know internal problems until when they were discovered recently
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#27
by
gigaz2
on 28 Jul, 2008 16:28
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it seems your pump rebuilder is not technically capable of doing his job..
why did you have all the work to put it back on the car to find out the "rpm hangs"?? it would show immediately on the test bench...
if it had more than a couple of hours of work on it, nothing should be stuck.
or your rebuilder is only capable to repair something that isn't broken?
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#28
by
spencebm
on 29 Jul, 2008 08:48
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it seems your pump rebuilder is not technically capable of doing his job..
why did you have all the work to put it back on the car to find out the "rpm hangs"?? it would show immediately on the test bench...
if it had more than a couple of hours of work on it, nothing should be stuck.
or your rebuilder is only capable to repair something that isn't broken?
i guess the VE pump manual for rebuilding says to run it at idle and full rpm to test it and he has rebuilt pumps for my family before and done a good job. i dont think it is his fault, he is trying really hard it is just something is hurt internally in the pump that he can't figure out. he has been rebuilding VE pumps for a long time. i still think this is a faulty part that i have received or the rebuilder would already have had it back to me again. every hour that it is worked on there is costing me lots of money. i need useful information, not bickering. thanks for your input everyone, though.
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#29
by
subsonic
on 29 Jul, 2008 11:40
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What exactly has been done to the pump for it's rebuild. Was it run on a test machine?
What are the indicators for the problem, whats it doing. What rpm etc...
What do you have the fuel screw, idle set at etc.