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July 15, 2008, 05:26:45 am

Torchd

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1.9TD injectors on 1.6NA?
« on: July 15, 2008, 05:26:45 am »
Heyy !!

I recently installed a newly rebuilt 1.6 NA in my car and it gives or crazy thick black smoke which clears out on cruising.

The engine is with 1.9TD injectors which are 150bar IIRC, the 1.6NA is suppose to have 130 bar injectors.... can this be the reason for excessive smoke??

All comments are welcome!

Thanks.

Reply #1July 15, 2008, 10:17:00 am

gigaz2

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 10:17:00 am »
it doesn't clear when you turn the full load screw a bit down?
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Reply #2July 15, 2008, 11:19:21 am

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 11:19:21 am »
the higher the pop pressure the more retarded the timing when the injector actually pops  ......

in other words , with higher pop presures  on the injectors , the injection pump needs to be advanced .........
which also means you need the proper tools to measure the timing dymanicly .

retarded timing can cause lots of smoke .
1990 jetta , tweaked pump , tweaked turbo , ported head  2.5inch exhaust .

1993 dodge w250 , diesel ... removing the dead moose parts .

Reply #3July 15, 2008, 01:25:41 pm

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 01:25:41 pm »
I havn't played with the full load screw, infact i dont know where that is. I dont really know my way around the IP so i never touch it.

Burnt_servo....

So what do u suggest.. will i be better of with advanced timings or just installing the 130bar injectors which this motor is suppose to have?


Thanks.

Reply #4July 15, 2008, 01:44:59 pm

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 01:44:59 pm »
if you don't know how to mess with the IP its best to fit the 130Bar injectors.

but you would get much more satisfaction from learning how to mess with the IP ;)
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Reply #5July 15, 2008, 05:51:55 pm

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 05:51:55 pm »
try the proper injectors to see if that solves your problem. It may be completely unrelated
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Reply #6July 16, 2008, 12:40:38 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 12:40:38 pm »
Quote from: "Torchd"
I havn't played with the full load screw, infact i dont know where that is. I dont really know my way around the IP so i never touch it.

Burnt_servo....

So what do u suggest.. will i be better of with advanced timings or just installing the 130bar injectors which this motor is suppose to have?


Thanks.


snap on  along with a few other companies make a really nice module that clamps onto the injection line , allowing you to  use a timing light to measure the injection timing ......  set your timing to 12 degree's before top dead centre  and your off to the races .

other than that ,  it might be best to go back to the stock pop presures ..... unless you can afford to fix a poped head gasket ( and related damage )from over advancing the timing  .
1990 jetta , tweaked pump , tweaked turbo , ported head  2.5inch exhaust .

1993 dodge w250 , diesel ... removing the dead moose parts .

Reply #7July 16, 2008, 10:39:59 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 10:39:59 pm »
Thanks for the replies..

I guess i'll install the proper injectors first and see it the problem goes away.