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May 10, 2005, 04:27:57 pm

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« on: May 10, 2005, 04:27:57 pm »
this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.

Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!
Sabi Szilagyi
'90 Jetta TD

Reply #1May 10, 2005, 05:55:20 pm

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Re: ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 05:55:20 pm »
Quote from: "shox75"
this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.

Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!


 :?: 3/4 full or 3/4 empty :?:
All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch  of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...
Mark-The-Miser-UK

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Reply #2May 10, 2005, 10:19:38 pm

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Re: ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2005, 10:19:38 pm »
Quote from: "Mark(The Miser)UK"
Quote from: "shox75"
this is really bad, seems I've destroyed my fuel economy, worst then it was.

Where can i get a good pump timing set?
I'd like to own one, but if htey're expensive, can anyone in BC help me out!


 :?: 3/4 full or 3/4 empty :?:
All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch  of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...


Umm that would be 3/4 empty. I cant think of anything im doing wrong other then pump timing. I dont have the sleeve, so i adjusted it with just a feeler guage and extension, mounted by a magnetic stand. But I dont trust it because the needle jumps around whenever i go to turn the engine!
So i want to do it properly so i can be sure that timing is correct. And if it is I donno wat else to think of.
Can rebuilt injectors be bad? I've heard of this for Mercedes 300D's, they are not recommended.
Sabi Szilagyi
'90 Jetta TD

Reply #3May 10, 2005, 11:04:30 pm

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Re: ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2005, 11:04:30 pm »
Quote from: "Mark(The Miser)UK"
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All you need is a dial gauge with extension (about 3") It needs at least 5mm or 1/4 inch  of travel.
Use a steel rule and feeler gauges for cam bar (and a suitable bolt if you wish) for the locking pin...


Mark. Can you explian what you mean and how to assemble it? eg: size of extension (dia.) and how does it screw into the end of the pump? Will any dial gauge do?
Regards, Peter.
1978 Golf diesel
1984 Nissan Patrol diesel
1986 Toyota Landcruiser 73 series 3B diesel
2006 Golf TDI 2.0 16v

Reply #4May 11, 2005, 01:16:49 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2005, 01:16:49 am »
You pretty much have to buy the proper tools.  The extension threads into the timing hole on the back of the pump, and it has a screw in it to hold the gauge.  The dial gauge has a very long rod on it.  I bought mine off E-Bay...there's links to other sites where you can buy them floating around here.
'94 Jetta TD dusty mauve-302,xxx kms

Reply #5May 11, 2005, 02:55:11 am

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2005, 02:55:11 am »
Thanks, Ian. Yeah...Just trying to be as miserly as Mark! thing is, I would probably only use it every x years. Seems like a lot of $$ for something that will spend 99.9999% of it's time gathering dust on my shop shelf.
Regards, Peter.
1978 Golf diesel
1984 Nissan Patrol diesel
1986 Toyota Landcruiser 73 series 3B diesel
2006 Golf TDI 2.0 16v

Reply #6May 11, 2005, 06:41:10 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2005, 06:41:10 am »
Just got mine off ebay for $55 and he threw in the pump locking as well.  (look for the seller's name of prothe)  It's well made and although it's not metric, I can vouch for the fact that it works as it should.  I timed my 1.5 just  the other day.

I had to take out my vacuum pump to screw in the indicator...not sure if that's normal or not.  This is the first time I've used it.
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Reply #7May 11, 2005, 09:41:05 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2005, 09:41:05 am »
I agree - alot of $$ for something I probably won't use more than once in the forseeable future.  Maybe somebody here could set up a loaner/rental program?
Greg Watson
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Reply #8May 11, 2005, 09:52:20 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2005, 09:52:20 am »
Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn.  I figured hey, I've already got over 5 grand worth of tools so what's another 100 bucks?

On my 1.9 I didn't have to take out the vacuum pump...just the hose for the crankcase ventilation.
'94 Jetta TD dusty mauve-302,xxx kms

Reply #9May 11, 2005, 10:17:10 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2005, 10:17:10 am »
Quote from: "dieselweasel"
Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn.  I figured hey, I've already got over 5 grand worth of tools so what's another 100 bucks?

On my 1.9 I didn't have to take out the vacuum pump...just the hose for the crankcase ventilation.


I was looking at that add too, is it worth it and is it a quality one at least.??
Sabi Szilagyi
'90 Jetta TD

Reply #10May 11, 2005, 10:53:47 am

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Re: ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2005, 10:53:47 am »
Here's a picture of adaptor etc
Nope I've removed it 'cus it couldn't be seen except by me so I'll repost tomorrow or so...
Mark-The-Miser-UK

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Reply #11May 11, 2005, 11:00:22 am

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Ahhh
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2005, 11:00:22 am »
'Ucking 'Ell
Sorry guys I seem to have over done it (thank god I don't postmany pictures ) :shock:

Looks like you can see the molecular structure
 :mrgreen: The thread is 8mm x 1mm
Mark-The-Miser-UK

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I'm not here to help... I'm here to Pro-Volke"

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Reply #12May 11, 2005, 01:45:39 pm

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2005, 01:45:39 pm »
Quote from: "watsongs"
I agree - alot of $$ for something I probably won't use more than once in the forseeable future.  Maybe somebody here could set up a loaner/rental program?

This could be a big ask.
I thinks it's a great idea...But who initially buys it? Postage costs? Hire fees? Repacement if it gets lost/broken? I would love to borrow one. But I reckon there would be no volunteers to lend it out!
Regards, Peter.
1978 Golf diesel
1984 Nissan Patrol diesel
1986 Toyota Landcruiser 73 series 3B diesel
2006 Golf TDI 2.0 16v

Reply #13May 12, 2005, 12:58:35 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2005, 12:58:35 am »
Quote from: "shox75"
Quote from: "dieselweasel"
Yeah I bought mine from prothe as well, although it came to about 100 Cdn.  


I was looking at that add too, is it worth it and is it a quality one at least.??


The tool is good quality.  It's worth it.
'94 Jetta TD dusty mauve-302,xxx kms

Reply #14May 12, 2005, 01:43:00 am

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ok me again, 500kms and my needle is below 3/4 mark...
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2005, 01:43:00 am »
is there any one who has a drawing of it? or can make one?