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Reply #15March 09, 2008, 06:44:11 pm

westcoaster

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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 06:44:11 pm »
.......... So,


It's bad to hammer the bolt ON with an impact wrench,

How about taking it off?


I simply grabbed the cam sprocket with my hand and zipped the bolt out with the impact gun.... Cam didn't move.
'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #16March 09, 2008, 09:29:32 pm

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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 09:29:32 pm »
Vice grips on the shaft will work as well! Sort of like Vince had his adjustable positioned, just not on the lobes.

Reply #17March 09, 2008, 10:54:07 pm

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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2008, 10:54:07 pm »
Just to add another tool for holding the cam, I used a smaller pipe wrench on the shaft.

Also I torqued the cam bolt to 33 ft lbs...it does seem low...
Have done 15-20,000 km since then with no probs.  Might torque it up to 45 just for peace of mind.  [/quote]
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Reply #18March 12, 2008, 10:19:37 pm

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 10:19:37 pm »
Hummm.....


At $595 for a brand new cam shaft I think I'll make this one work for me one way or another..... :cry:


But on the bright side I could buy another used engine for about the same price and have a bunch of spare parts.....
'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #19March 13, 2008, 07:23:11 am

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 07:23:11 am »
Camshafts shouldn't cost that much. I think Frank at Franks TDIs in MO can get them for about $100-200. The hydro camshaft is the same across all applications (Na and TD), and the same is true for the mechanical camshaft.

Reply #20March 13, 2008, 07:40:39 am

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 07:40:39 am »
if anybody needs a cam 026109101g  I can do them for 125 shipped to lower 48..

 ;)
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Reply #21March 13, 2008, 03:55:01 pm

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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 03:55:01 pm »
Quote from: "libbybapa"
Busdepot lists the hydro camshaft for $125. 026109101g

Andrew


Are you sure that's the right part number? I just checked my ETKA and it lists it as a 068 109 101L. That part number is for a 1.8 or 2.0 CIS gasser. Do they interchange?

The only reason I'm being incredulous, is because (as fate would have it), I am now in need of a hydro camshaft.  

I found out what can happen when you over torque the camshaft sprocket.

I tried to pop of the cam gear from a 1987 Golf. It was on there really tight. In the end, I had to hold the sprocket, and use an impact wrench (not something I'm fond of). Once I got the bolt out, the cam gear did not want to come off. I set a punch through the punch hole, and hit it numerous times with a heavy hammer. It just kept peening the back of the gear and putting a dent in it. Finally, I gave up and decided to hit the tin timing cover guard that came on the 1985-up cars with my rubber mallet. After a couple of heavy whacks, the gear came off. But, it took the end of the camshaft with it. I've never seen that happen in my life. Lucky me.

So, if anyone has a spare hydro camshaft they're not using...

Reply #22March 13, 2008, 04:00:21 pm

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 04:00:21 pm »
I just spoke with Frank at Franks TDIs, and he claims the 1997-1998 1.9 AHU TDI camshft is considerably similar, with the only real difference being slightly more lift on the 1.9 TDI camshaft=more power.  I'm wiling to try that, since my supplier does not seem to carry the 1.6 NA camshaft anymore (used to).

Thoughts?

Reply #23March 13, 2008, 09:36:57 pm

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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 09:36:57 pm »
Quote from: "Quantum TD"
I tried to pop of the cam gear from a 1987 Golf. It was on there really tight. In the end, I had to hold the sprocket, and use an impact wrench (not something I'm fond of). Once I got the bolt out, the cam gear did not want to come off. I set a punch through the punch hole, and hit it numerous times with a heavy hammer. It just kept peening the back of the gear and putting a dent in it. Finally, I gave up and decided to hit the tin timing cover guard that came on the 1985-up cars with my rubber mallet. After a couple of heavy whacks, the gear came off. But, it took the end of the camshaft with it. I've never seen that happen in my life. Lucky me.


Thats why I use a bearing puller. You can actually make one yourself using 3 long bolts/nuts and a flat bar of metal.

One caution. Last weekend I was taking off the Injection pump gear off the injection pump with my puller. I tighten up the puller pretty tight and the gear was pretty rusted on. I set my ratchet down and put my face up to the gear to get a closer look to see if I was damaging the gear surface. All the sudden, BAM! That gear popped off like a ***ing rocket! Almost gave me a black eye, but I jumped away just in time. But, no damage to the gear or IP! Pullers beat hammers any day!
1985 VW Golf Diesel 1.6L N/A
My Build Thread: http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=14607.0

Reply #24March 13, 2008, 09:51:09 pm

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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2008, 09:51:09 pm »
Quote from: "myke_w"
if anybody needs a cam 026109101g  I can do them for 125 shipped to lower 48..

 ;)



What would it be shipped to western Canada?


Thanks,
'87 suzuki samurai with a 1.9 AAZ TD transplant

Reply #25March 13, 2008, 11:56:13 pm

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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2008, 11:56:13 pm »
sorry, the 026 109 101 g is the gasser one, the 068 109 101L number is correct for the hydraulic diesel idi cam, the 068 gives it away
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