Author Topic: Turbo on a 1.6NA- sorry for the newbie thread (Read 3841 times)

thedeezel · « **on:** March 06, 2008, 04:41:27 pm »

Yep, I'll admit it, I am a newbie when it comes to hot rodding a VW diesel.
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My, question is this, I am purchasing a BAE turbo setup to put on my new project, an 82 2 door Rabbit, with a NA 1.6 and 5 speed, I understand that these kits run about 8 psi.
Do I need to look for a different pump, or can I get enough adjustment out of the NA IP to handle the 8psi jump.
What, if anything else will I need to do to the motor to make it reliable, I know the factory Turbo engines have the oil squirters to cool the pistons, but they run 18 psi or so, and as long as my EGT stays around 1100 I believe I should be fine without the squirters. I am planning on installing an oil cooler when I assemble the car, as well as fabbing a new intake manifold so I can plumb an FMIC into the car as well.
Also, the motor and tranny are currently out of the car, and in fact, not from the same car, I am going to do a compression test on the motor when I pick it up in the next couple of days, what is a good compression level for this engine, and at what level would I have to hone and re-ring it?
Any additional info would be greatly appreciated, I am amazed at the amount of knowledge and the power levels being talked about on this website. After this car is done, I plan on getting together with 935racer and Giles and a few others to get a GOOD motor built.

eightyonerabbit · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2008, 07:59:14 am »

ok... im not gonna lie... i didnt read all of that... but ill go ahead and tell ya about my n/a turbo project... it was easy, and if you keep stock boost itll hold up for a while... if that wasnt your question, then i appologize for wasting your time

rabbitman · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2008, 10:52:55 am »

Well, a NA pump will work with a turbo, just not as good. Also, stock boost for a 1.6TD is about 10psi, personally, I wouldn't run much extra fuel in a turbo'd NA just because I like longevity. Well, a little every now and then :twisted: As for compression, mine has 375psi on most cylinders and it's fine. Wear limit is like 398psi though :roll:

P.S. It won't hurt anything to run a NA pump with a turbo, it would just be an eco diesel then :wink:

thedeezel · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2008, 11:06:08 am »

thanks for the info, I am hoping the FMIC and oil cooler will help with the longevity on the NA engine.
I am going to pick up the car and engine/tranny tonight.

bevboyy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2008, 08:24:06 am »

I would use aftermarket headbolts (ARP or the like) and put a fresh head gasket on. As well, I would strongly suggest running an intercooler and using a external oil cooler set up. You will need to run a oil feed line to the turbo - you will need the oil filter mount off a TD. The oil return line is simple, remove pan, drill and tap an NPT fitting...Run the n/a pump with slightly upped fueling and you are safe for 10psi. If you are using a head with 11mm bolts, I would say run only 8 psi.

thedeezel · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2008, 08:49:54 am »

Thanks for the input, I picked up the car last night, while I was there we did a compression test on the motor and it was wasted, one cyliner was down to 80psi, the others were around 120, so the motor will have to be gone thru, but in the mean time I may have located a 1.9td and a 1.6td I can get my grubby litlle hands on instead!

thedeezel · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:34:30 pm »

They do not still make the kits, form what I have found they stopped in 83 or 84.
The kit has a BAE exhaust manifold with turbo, a BAE intake manifold, turbo induction pipe, air cleaner assembly, all the oil hoses, downpipe.

Also I have an oil pan that has already been drilled for the return line.

Pretty much everything to convert a NA motor to a turbo.

jtanguay · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2008, 04:43:13 am »

i'm wondering if its possible to drill & tap the block for the return line? much better setup since the return in the oil pan is actually under the oil level... (not so good)

Quote from: "prothe"

Are they still selling turbo kits? What do the kits include? How much did you pay for the turbo kit?

i say you sell a turbo kit :lol:

thedeezel · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2008, 08:12:43 am »

This oil pan is drilled up high, I would think it is above the oil level in the pan, but maybe not.

I would like to figure out how and where to drill on a NA block to install oil squirters, can the oil galley be drilled into, or could you bring an external oil feedline in and take squirters off of that, I have seen that done on race blocks before, but I don't know if that is possible on these motors.