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April 06, 2005, 01:49:24 pm

veeman

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« on: April 06, 2005, 01:49:24 pm »
I did some searching of the archives, but didn't find an exact answer about this...

Can you identify the head bolts by looking at the bolt's head?  In other words, do all 11mm bolts have the normal hex head and all 12mm bolts have the 12 point head?


I have an '81 CR engine and it seems they changed styles midway through the year.  

Thanks in advance!
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Reply #1April 06, 2005, 04:50:13 pm

lord_verminaard

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2005, 04:50:13 pm »
Well, according to ETKA, I have the CR engine up to chassis number 176 338 using 11mm hex head bolts, and 176 339 and later CR's using 12mm triple square.  The only other 11mm bolts were used on gassers and had polygon heads.  They were also something like two threads shorter.   :?:

Hope this helps.

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Reply #2April 06, 2005, 06:15:03 pm

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2005, 06:15:03 pm »
I have 11mm diesels with both styles.  But... the factory issue diesel was hex, and non-stretch

all '81'D's (CR) that I've run across have been 11mm  

The counter sink (spotface) is smaller dia but deeper on 11MM
11mm blocks have 16D cast into back; 12mm = 1.6D in casting

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Reply #3April 07, 2005, 06:20:24 am

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2005, 06:20:24 am »
>>11mm blocks have 16D cast into back; 12mm = 1.6D in casting

So the only difference in the casting marking was the decimal point?  Interesting.
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Reply #4April 07, 2005, 08:31:55 am

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2005, 08:31:55 am »
Quote from: "Sharkey"
One of the tricks people tried to keep 1.5D's from blowing head gaskets was to use 11mm gas stretch head bolts on them. It didn't help, but they do have the triple square heads, making things more confusing yet.



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