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February 11, 2008, 10:19:40 am

shegel

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« on: February 11, 2008, 10:19:40 am »
i was reading my bentley and it said that the 16v also has the oil squirters. does anyone know if it would be possible to just use that block. it seems that it would be easier to source a 16v block rather than a td block
1986 Golf 1.6l non turbo (R.I.P.)
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1969 karmann ghia(diesel swap dream)(most likely going to be subaru powered)
1998 jetta tdi (parents car)

Reply #1February 11, 2008, 10:34:21 am

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 10:34:21 am »
16v have 81mm bore.
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Reply #2February 11, 2008, 01:55:24 pm

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 01:55:24 pm »
the squirters are different from the td squirters also.
01 Jetta TDI 100% stock daily
81 Rabbit:TDI-M ported head, Frank06 cam, PD intake, hybrid T3 turbo, Renault intercooler, Syl20 11mm pump, light weight fw, and yellow California Clutch clutch kit

Reply #3February 11, 2008, 03:44:03 pm

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 03:44:03 pm »
hence why i ask...thanks
1986 Golf 1.6l non turbo (R.I.P.)
1999.5 jetta (bought with 122145)
1969 karmann ghia(diesel swap dream)(most likely going to be subaru powered)
1998 jetta tdi (parents car)

Reply #4February 14, 2008, 05:54:41 pm

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 05:54:41 pm »
Quote from: "MJF"
16v have 81mm bore.


MJF.....I am still anxious to hear some details with respect to your 200HP IDI. How did you achieve this?

Thanks in advance.

Haybayian
Keep it simple if you can.

Reply #5February 14, 2008, 07:02:08 pm

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 07:02:08 pm »
there was a guy on vwvortex that used a td block for his gasser
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Reply #6February 14, 2008, 10:16:26 pm

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 10:16:26 pm »
The diesel blocks are a lot beefier then the gassers from what I hear due to the extra stress in the diesel engine.

What are you planning?
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Reply #7February 15, 2008, 07:07:07 am

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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 07:07:07 am »
If the stroke is the same, I bet you could sleeve it and fit some 1.7 pistons in assuming the deck height is right. Also assuming my remembering that a 1.7 piston has the same stroke and is 79.5mm dia is correct.
Jim
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Reply #8February 16, 2008, 12:09:53 am

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2008, 12:09:53 am »
Quote from: "haybayian"
Quote from: "MJF"
16v have 81mm bore.


MJF.....I am still anxious to hear some details with respect to your 200HP IDI. How did you achieve this?

Thanks in advance.

Haybayian


http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10797&start=60

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How different are the 1.8 Jetta 2 blocks from the 1.6 diesel blocks?  

1.8 Gas bore * stroke 81 * 86.4 mm
1.6 Diesel  bore * stroke  76.5  86.4

Is the height of the block the same?  Has anyone ever heard of a gas to diesel conversion with cylinder sleeves?  Does anyone know what the diesel to gas differences are?


Are the diesel blocks so rare there? I mean is it worth all the sleeving etc. These are junk metal to me :lol:
'74 VW Scirocco TD
'86 Audi 80q 1,9TDic
'01 Audi A6q 2,5TDI

Reply #9February 16, 2008, 04:58:16 am

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2008, 04:58:16 am »
Thanks MJF for pointing me to your past post about performance mods.

I noticed that in your rebuilt TD you have used a crankshaft from a 1.6  instead of a 1.9's. Are they the same?. Any reason? Is the 1.6 crankshaft's throw shorter than the 1.9's?

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Reply #10February 16, 2008, 06:56:23 am

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2008, 06:56:23 am »
Quote from: "MJF"

Are the diesel blocks so rare there? I mean is it worth all the sleeving etc. These are junk metal to me :lol:

They are somewhat rare here in the States. Sounds like Canada got many more than we did, probably because of the Olds Diesel.
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
Driven daily