Dodge VE turbo aneroid

[Quantum TD]

I was just at the pharmacy picking up some meds for a wicked ear infection. While I was waiting, I picked up "Diesel Power" magazine. They had a mod piece on getting more power out of a Bosch VE pump (with aneroid) used on the 1989-1993 Dodge diesel motors.

They did some rotation trick to the aneroid that is supposed to add more fueling under boost (blah, blah, blah). Not much power added there.
Also, they apparently just figured out the max fuel screw trick that everyone here's known about for years. The amazing thing is that they managed to sqeeze out another 70 hp. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, the pump looked the same as a VW VE pump with aneroid. I was wondering if anyone had ever tried to mate one up to a VW pump. It seems like everyone is searching for a TD pump with aneroid. If you couldn't find a VW, then maybe you might find a Dodge pump.

Anyone try this? Just a thought.

[westcoaster]

I drove around in one of those trucks for 11 years....

160 hp and 460? foot pounds of torque. The motor was a direct injected turbo diesel governed to 2500 rpm...
It's funny, I look at those numbers now and think how gutless and slow that truck was. When I first drove it home off the dealer lot, there wasn't much else on the road that could haul and tow like that truck. Ford had the IDI 7.3 naturally asperated diesels and the gas engines were just getting over the pollution control flue that started in the mid 80's
I was getting 20+mpg with a 3/4 ton 4x4 all while paying $0.499 a litre for diesel while everyone else was paying 0.599 for gas.....
Not even my brand new electronically controlled dodge diesel gets the same fuel economy as that old dodge did. :roll:

[Redrum Rabbit]

The short answer is yes.

The aneroid as you call it is a air controlled servo.  Dodge people call it one thing and vw peeps call it another.  On the idi 1.9's the boost pin (what you are rotating) is fairly straight thus not much extra fuel under boost.
The cummins and the 1.6 td have a radically different shaped boost pin from the 1.9.  it looks like a straight 1.9 at the top and then there is a unsemetrical cone on an excentric on the bottom.  Meaning the cone top isn't in the center of the pin.  it's offset.  Also the fat part of the cone is on the bottom of the pin.

As boost pressure rises and forces the pin down, there is a pin that follows the cone and opens up more fuel to the engine.  

I have that issue of Diesel Power and the only problem i have with it is that they don.t show the pin at it's most ramped and heavily fueled setting.  So did they get to that setting or did they just guess.

FYI you can put a 1.6 pin into a 1.9.  Not sure about the cummins though i'l be trying it with mine to see when it warms up a bit.  I'll post some pics if they're at all different.

Another side note, as I'm sure your right about vw's being modded sooner  than the cummins, we cummins folk have known about fueling and boost mods for a while and there are even some things I see there that arn't here!!!!!  For example, once you have a 1.6 pin you can grind the cone higher so that under full load it fuels even more!

People here have talked about the cummins 4bt pumps.  A 4bt is just a 6 cyl  Cummins with 2 cylinders chopped off.  it's a 3.9 liter IIRC.  I'm certain there are peeps who have done that mod and use a 4bt pump or it's cam plate, plunger, high pressure head etc.

I have a 6bt non ic cummins that's in my motorhome and with stock 160hp and 400lbs  it can be drastically improved with a 3200rpm governing spring, a larger air filter, tuning the pump and a proper exhaust , just to name a few of the possible mods.  

I love that engine, what a beast.  I think a 6bt is the best motor out there with the volks close behind.
Eric

[jtanguay]

Another side note, as I'm sure your right about vw's being modded sooner  than the cummins, we cummins folk have known about fueling and boost mods for a while and there are even some things I see there that arn't here!!!!!  For example, once you have a 1.6 pin you can grind the cone higher so that under full load it fuels even more!

hillfolk'r did that a while ago...  lol i remember his pin being pretty thin as he removed quite a bit of material  :twisted: