smart car tuning

[giulianot]

Does anyone know where to get a chip and injectors for a canadian diesel smart car in ontario? thanks

[burn_your_money]

ebay

[bevboyy]

Why though? there is only so much you can expect to get out of a 3 cyl TD.......

[burn_your_money]

That's what the 6 cyl guys say about our 4 bangers :lol:

[1slowvw]

That's what the 6 cyl guys say about our 4 bangers :lol:

Haha, thats great.
But seriously I have heard that with the right tunning those cars will move along quite smartly.

1SlowVW

[burn_your_money]

The one I drove was chipped and had a K&N, it was pretty peppy, but I never drove a stock one so it might have been crazy fast by smart standards

[Katmandu]

The one I drove was chipped and had a K&N, it was pretty peppy, but I never drove a stock one so it might have been crazy fast by smart standards

What MPG do those things achieve ?

[vixentd]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/240685/smart_car_vs_ferrari/

[burn_your_money]

That one probably is a gas engine and probably a swap.

The stock transmissions shift like a bag of crap, there is probably a solid 1 second delay between shifts.

[jimfoo]

The one I drove was chipped and had a K&N, it was pretty peppy, but I never drove a stock one so it might have been crazy fast by smart standards

What MPG do those things achieve ?

The Smart ForTwo's big selling point is going to be fuel economy. For the current version, the company estimates a combined city/highway fuel mileage of about 40 miles per gallon, according to DaimlerChrysler. (The 60 mpg figure sometimes reported is for the diesel-engine version.)

So not really much if any better than a TDI with twice the room.

[OM617]

The stock transmissions shift like a bag of crap, there is probably a solid 1 second delay between shifts.

No kidding. I test drove a Zap "federalized" version and I was not impressed one bit by it.

Cheap plastic everywhere.
VERY slow (Slower than a stock MB 300D).
Horrible transmission.
Not at all efficient for its size, weight and engine displacement..
Not safe to drive because of all the pickups/SUVs running around.
Not fun to drive.
Embarrassing/homosexual to be seen in one.
EXTREMELY over hyped.

The Zap converted one I test drove a few years ago was also for sale. It was a midrange model demo vehicle with 800 miles. They wanted, get this, $30,000 for it! :shock:

There is no way anyone should willingly pay more than $10,000 for one of those sacks of sh!t with wheels.

The upcoming americanized (porked out) version is even worse. Mitsubishi  1.0L non-turbo engine, bigger dimensions, heavier, slower, and even lower economy. The only saving grace of the ForTwo was it's turbocharged Mercedes engine. With that out of the picture its a complete piece of junk.

The Smart ForTwo's big selling point is going to be fuel economy. For the current version, the company estimates a combined city/highway fuel mileage of about 40 miles per gallon

Think about it, 40mpg in a vehicle that small is terrible. The 2007 Toyota Corolla gets 32/40mpg and the 2007 Honda Civic with a 1.3L gets 49/51mpg. Hell, a Mercedes 240D can get 32mpg in a vehicle 5 times the ForTwo's weight!

I just don't understand it. A vehicle that small, light and weak should be getting 60-80mpg at the least. What makes it so inefficient that 40mpg is all it can do?

[jtanguay]

its a conspiracy... i bet the major oil companies are the ones pushing this vehicle  :lol:

i remember seeing a commercial for the dodge caliber... "surprisingly fuel efficient" 32 mpg.... wow i'm so... unimpressed!  yet some will still believe it is 'efficient' due to the commercial.  oil companies win again!

i've heard of Geo Metro's getting 80 mpg with some mods... :roll:

[burn_your_money]

Cheap plastic everywhere.
VERY slow (Slower than a stock MB 300D).
Not safe to drive because of all the pickups/SUVs running around.
Not fun to drive.
Embarrassing/homosexual to be seen in one.

I'll argue these points.

The one I was in was leather
it was pretty quick, somewhere between a NA and a TD mk2 (quick is relative
:lol: )
I think they are safe
I had fun
I don't find them embarrassing in any way

[jimfoo]

But I imagine OM617 did his test drive in Colo at 6000' elevation. That's a lot less air for an NA Diesel, so a lot less power than at sea level.

[burn_your_money]

The one I was in was also modded