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January 24, 2008, 03:33:09 pm

Baselyne

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I was wondering If it would be possible to get by re-using a set of head bolts 1 time only....

I know they say to relpace them but would you get by with a used once set?

Probubley not because it'ssssstretch type...correct?

Reply #1January 24, 2008, 04:15:28 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 04:15:28 pm »
I wouldn't risk having to redo a job because of the head bolts causing a head gasket leak....but they probably will work.  Each time you use them and torque to vw's specs they get longer and thinner.

Here's the gist better than I can put it http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Would_it_hurt_to_reuse_the_headbolts_on_a_95_2.0_ford_contour
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Reply #2January 24, 2008, 04:24:35 pm

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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 04:24:35 pm »
Right on, Thanks for that little link, That makes things seem very likly that stretch bolts are not to be re-used!

Has anyone had any experiences they'd like to share... In re-using h.bolts ? has anyone gotten away with it before?

What should a set of new IDI h.bolts be roughtly CAD?

Reply #3January 24, 2008, 04:31:13 pm

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 04:31:13 pm »
Is it really worth reusing them? What's the cost of them not working in time and money compared to new bolts?
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Reply #4January 24, 2008, 04:33:37 pm

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 04:33:37 pm »
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12336 same *** different pile  :lol: don't re-use stretch bolts!!!


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Reply #5January 24, 2008, 04:51:00 pm

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 04:51:00 pm »
ok that's proof enough for me, Im sold on a new set that's forsure!

Were to buy in the Ont? Price roughtly?

Reply #6January 24, 2008, 06:20:26 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 06:20:26 pm »
The various WorldPac vendors sell them cheap cheap cheap, and OEM to boot:

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Reply #7January 24, 2008, 11:12:39 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 11:12:39 pm »
www.autopartsonlinecanada.com is where I always get my stuff. I know it's cheaper sometimes other places but these guys have excellent shipping times (except when it comes from BC, which is rare unless it's a rare part) and they have good customer service in my experience.
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Reply #8January 25, 2008, 06:00:53 am

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 06:00:53 am »
What Motor?

If its a 1.5, you will probably strip a hole, or bust the block in one of the corner holes.  The bolts are WAY TOO SHORT!  I really believe its a design flaw.

Nos-hit, use any style head bolt in a 1.5 at your own peril.  It will fail.

Buy either the ARP or Raceware stud kit.  They both offer 11mm stud kits.
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Reply #9January 25, 2008, 09:06:15 am

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 09:06:15 am »
I wouldn't. It is definately worth the extra bucks to get them.

Reply #10January 25, 2008, 01:40:53 pm

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 01:40:53 pm »
I reused my head bolts and haven't had any problems, yet. :P  Next time I'll get new ones of course.
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Reply #11January 25, 2008, 03:06:15 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 03:06:15 pm »
which engine was that in there rabbitman?

ive been wondering since im in there is there a list of other things that should be replaced> Ill be needing to get these things like pre-chambers and probubley timing belt and tensioner

what else you guys think?

Reply #12January 25, 2008, 05:54:56 pm

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 05:54:56 pm »
Prechambers don't get replaced, unless they are trash. Then you probably have bigger problems. Crank bolt, cap, rod, head bolts and heat shields are all I can think of that has to be replaced. Timing belt and tensioner should if you don't know the miles or it's getting close, but I wouldn't replace new ones for no reason. Head gasket gets replaced as should any seals you disturb. The oil pump doesn't hurt, but if it had good pressure, I personally wouldn't bother.
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Reply #13January 28, 2008, 06:17:44 am

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 06:17:44 am »
FYI

Here's the Raceware 11mm studs installed in my 1.5TD.  (hot valve clearence check photo)

The ARP studs probably look similar.

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Reply #14January 28, 2008, 06:27:49 am

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 06:27:49 am »
So there studs then, It wont be a bolt like the one that I pulled out when removing the head?

Like fully threaded rod and a nut? or a regular bolt with a cap on the end....?

A freind of mine was using over sized drilled studs...

(They looked like the hub/lug studs that thread into the hub and put on nuts after) was this just a specific application as I think i heard him mention he drilled them and tapped them to hold a aftermarket stud kit!!!!!????

Im asking.... Do some companies make studs and some a bolt??????

ARP's seem to be the best for a 1.6L re build? SOrry for all the questions, I thought at first they really were not too serious of a bolt but after reading everyones posts in this thread I do understand alot more about how much compression that new gasket is under...!

thanks everyone for your input and pictures
Props for taking the time to teach a newby