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December 11, 2007, 07:48:10 pm

James8485

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« on: December 11, 2007, 07:48:10 pm »
i have a 97 golf TD AAZ my crank doesnt wobble is this a good motor??
any thing i shou,d know about>
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Reply #1December 11, 2007, 09:03:07 pm

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 09:03:07 pm »
That is a very little amount of info for expecting such a concrete response. do a compression test. that will help us help you ;)

Reply #2December 12, 2007, 07:12:15 am

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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 07:12:15 am »
If you mean anything specific to the 1.9, I think the crank pulley is really the only problem. Just keep an eye on yours.
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
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Reply #3December 12, 2007, 09:43:40 am

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2007, 09:43:40 am »
My AAZ has the TDI crank already in it,the unit was a vw exchange engine so they rectify the crank problem,a good tdi crank looks like this



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And its got a T3 on it  :twisted:

Reply #4December 12, 2007, 01:04:17 pm

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2007, 01:04:17 pm »
i think it was on this site i heard of someone even with the TDI crank sprocket having an issue.  get the one way clutched alternator pulley from a TDI engine and you should be good to go.

the main reason for the cranks going is because the alternator is a large rotating mass at high rpm's.  when the engine slows down (from say 3000 rpm to 1000 rpm) it does this quite rapidly, but the alternator doesn't respond so quickly and puts back force on the crank.  after a while it can loosen it just enough so that the timing belt can either slip or screw up timing enough that the valves hit the pistons.  either way its not pretty.  the old 1.6's aren't affected because of the v-belt system and the way it is setup.

either way you should have a really nice motor and it will last you a long time if you take care of it (good synthetic oil, religious oil change intervals, driving style; take it easy when the engine is cold, etc)


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Reply #5December 12, 2007, 02:12:44 pm

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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2007, 02:12:44 pm »
Got the T shirt  :wink:



one way pulley fitted  8)
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Reply #6December 12, 2007, 04:40:18 pm

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2007, 04:40:18 pm »
yup, gonna take pictures when I install my 1-way pulley (gotta do some drilling and tapping to make it fit on my early-model alternator and some pics might save someone some time) and once you see how it works you understand the pressure it takes of the crank pulley.
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Reply #7December 12, 2007, 04:49:05 pm

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2007, 04:49:05 pm »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
yup, gonna take pictures when I install my 1-way pulley (gotta do some drilling and tapping to make it fit on my early-model alternator and some pics might save someone some time) and once you see how it works you understand the pressure it takes of the crank pulley.


Where did you guys get the one way pulley? I'm looking into a serp belt conversion on my TD, that would be a nice upgrade.
91 Passat syncro 1.8T swapped.

Reply #8December 13, 2007, 12:05:34 am

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2007, 12:05:34 am »
Mine came from a 120A audi TT alternator  :wink:  the car had done 38 miles and was wrote off,the alternator was cracked but the pulley was mint  :P
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If you rev the car flat out then let it idle,you can hear the alternator slowing down after the revs drop,so no strain on the crank pulley.

Reply #9December 13, 2007, 12:34:03 am

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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2007, 12:34:03 am »
It's part # 028 903 119AA.. pricey little sucker... and you need some fancy Metalnerd tools to put it on... but it's way cheaper than a crank !
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Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #10December 13, 2007, 07:08:30 am

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2007, 07:08:30 am »
Ok, since I will be doing the crank mod since my crank will be out this time around, does any TDI sprocket work or just certain years? I think machine time is close as there is a package at the post office for me.  :twisted:
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
Driven daily

Reply #11December 14, 2007, 03:36:18 pm

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2007, 03:36:18 pm »
Quote from: "bert"
Mine came from a 120A audi TT alternator  :wink:  the car had done 38 miles and was wrote off,the alternator was cracked but the pulley was mint  :P
Bert
If you rev the car flat out then let it idle,you can hear the alternator slowing down after the revs drop,so no strain on the crank pulley.


With the tach being RPM driven, does this affect the reading?
91 Passat syncro 1.8T swapped.

Reply #12December 14, 2007, 04:46:57 pm

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2007, 04:46:57 pm »
Yup.

Not a problem on its native TDI since the tach signal comes from the ECU... for as a retrofit to an AAZ it will be a factor.

  Haven't driven one yet so don't know how obvious it will be... I'm usually paying attention to my tach during acceleration and slow deceleration anyway so I suspect I won't notice too much.

Small price to pay IMHO, however, vs a chewed up crankshaft ?! ;-)
Vince

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2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #13December 14, 2007, 06:05:28 pm

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2007, 06:05:28 pm »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
Yup.

Not a problem on its native TDI since the tach signal comes from the ECU... for as a retrofit to an AAZ it will be a factor.

  Haven't driven one yet so don't know how obvious it will be... I'm usually paying attention to my tach during acceleration and slow deceleration anyway so I suspect I won't notice too much.

Small price to pay IMHO, however, vs a chewed up crankshaft ?! ;-)


Yeah that's what I thought. You could switch to this setup. IMO it would be more precise (not worry about a slipping belt screwing the signal). And you can use any tach you want.

http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/CheapTricks/Tachometer/index.shtml
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Reply #14December 15, 2007, 07:53:23 am

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2007, 07:53:23 am »
My GTD has no tach  :cry:  so im ok,i noticed the bounce of the belt has gone too with the clutch pulley.
Bert