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November 16, 2007, 01:29:26 pm

overdrivegear

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Pump timing advancement: How To?
« on: November 16, 2007, 01:29:26 pm »
Background:  I have a very rough idle and tons of white smoke produced to unburned fuel.  Brand new injectors didn't help the problem.  Did a leak down test:  all cylinders retain 95% with excellent valve sealing.  In other words, compression is superb.

I'm thinking the timing on the pump is slightly retarded.  I timed it before using the proper procedure and tools (so it wasn't eye-balled) and set the timing right in the middle of the specified range.

How exactly do I advance the pump and how much (since this is a 'feel' type of thing)?
1985 Westy Golf 1.6 NA
1987 Cabriolet (soon to be 1.6 NA)

Reply #1November 16, 2007, 02:21:51 pm

Vincent Waldon

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 02:21:51 pm »
What setting is the timing at now ??
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Reply #2November 16, 2007, 06:30:16 pm

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 06:30:16 pm »
The Haynes manual called for a setting of '0.83mm'.  That's what it was originally set at...and it sucked.

This time I went back and set it to 1.00mm (0.0393 in) and it runs very well now!  The power is there and the emissions at operating temperature is almost nil.  Do I need to go even further and bounce the lift up to 1.05 mm (0.0414 in)?
1985 Westy Golf 1.6 NA
1987 Cabriolet (soon to be 1.6 NA)

Reply #3November 16, 2007, 06:35:43 pm

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 06:35:43 pm »
Common wisdom seems to be that 1.00mm is about the best for an non-turbo car... 1.05mm for a turbo.

If you're happy with the performance, emissions, etc, now I'd be included to leave it.


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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta