IDI: the post apocalypse choice

[myke_w]

Aside from running on "flex fuels"

IDI are damn simple - and aren't subject to EMP's or microwave radiation designed to stop vehicles dead in thier tracks.. see link

http://slashdot.org/articles/07/11/13/2322241.shtml


please feel free to add anything you see fit to this thread

[FineFrank]

So if I read this right, the fuzz can now stop a fleeing car with a microwave pulse.
Seems to me if the fuzz was trying to catch me, though, he wouldn't have much trouble;).
EMP would stop a diesel rabbit, too, though, since it burns out wiring. The starter, injector solenoid, and glow plug relay would be fried just as badly as any pc board. But I'm confident that I could get mine started, at least in the summer. I guess I need to bury some spare VW parts along with my other end of the world supplies .

[myke_w]

remove injector fuel solenoid plunger and it's 100% mechanical

[burn_your_money]

I wonder how long until some poor criminal sues the police force for giving them cancer from the microwaves :roll:

[QuickTD]

Having a background in electronics, I seriously doubt that an EMP event would do any harm to any system in an IDI diesel. A nuclear EMP is similar to a distant lightning strike in intensity and rise time but does more damage due to its widespread coverage, similar to that of a solar flare. Very large systems with long lengths of exposed, unshielded wiring, antennas, telecommunications systems, and electrical grids are highly succeptable to induced voltage from an EMP. The likelyhood of damage to the connected equipment such as radio transmitters/recievers, telecom switchgear and any line powered equipment is very high. Compact battery powered equipment such as that in an automobile would not be nearly as succeptable. I very much doubt that even a modern computerized car would be badly damaged in an EMP event, the radio would probably suffer the worst.

[QuickTD]

I wonder how long until some poor criminal sues the police force for giving them cancer from the microwaves :roll:

And microwaves don't cause cancer, you'll need a much shorter wavelength to disrupt your DNA. Somewhere north of the ultraviolet spectrum, so you can take off your tinfoil helmet now...  

[burn_your_money]

slowly removing helmet....

[clbanman]

http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/19699/?nlid=662&a=f for another link with a bit more info.   As far as I can tell, this is not actually in use.   I think this is taking technology a bit too far.  So, you're in the hospital having open heart surgery when some yahoo decides to run from the cops.  Just as he goes past the hospital, the cops activate the system.  Do you survive?  I wouldn't want to be the test subject.

[QuickTD]

slowly removing helmet....

Trade the tinfoil for a sombrero, you'll thank me later...

[burn_your_money]

the system could pose a safety concern as well: radiation can burn human skin, and microwaves have long been suspected of being a cancer-causing agent.

Yikes

Back to the tinfoil

[Jetta Fan]

Just shoot me now.  :lol:

[jtanguay]

So if I read this right, the fuzz can now stop a fleeing car with a microwave pulse.
Seems to me if the fuzz was trying to catch me, though, he wouldn't have much trouble;).
EMP would stop a diesel rabbit, too, though, since it burns out wiring. The starter, injector solenoid, and glow plug relay would be fried just as badly as any pc board. But I'm confident that I could get mine started, at least in the summer. I guess I need to bury some spare VW parts along with my other end of the world supplies .

um... compare the size of the wires to the size of contacts on a circuit board.  the microwaves required to melt 16 gauge wire could probably burst the cells in your body.

microchips and circuits are VERY sensitive.  right down to a few millivolts.  doesn't take much if any juice to kill them.  i highly doubt even a nuke could destroy our robust stop solenoids  :lol:

i do believe microwaves cause cancer... just ask the guy who invented them  :lol: oh wait he's dead.. from a tumour caused by CANCER  :lol:

the beam can be controlled, and directed into a very accurate area. short pulses mean less damage to any human bodies.  intensity level would set the range of the microwaves too, so i wouldn't worry about the beam going too far past the front of the cruiser.

and don't laugh but i've thought of building a microwave gun for my car.  maybe when i come across a few hundred thousand bucks... which may be in the near future if all goes well.

i wouldn't be worried about it.  they will obviously test the system out before zapping people.. or they'll just use it on rapists, cop killers, and other high risk high violence offenders.  i'd rather them get cancer than smash up my jetta!  :lol:

[Slave2School]

I think the fellow taht discovered microwaves worked at a radar station and noticed his sack got hot when he stood too close to the equipment.

[QuickTD]

I do believe microwaves cause cancer... just ask the guy who invented them  oh wait he's dead.. from a tumour caused by CANCER

 Keep in mind that Percy Spencer was 76 years old at the time of his death. I suppose his cancer could have been microwave induced but I doubt it.

 People mistakenly assume that since certain wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum cause cancer then all electromagnetic waves must cause cancer. That is utter and complete nonsense. The only way to be harmed by microwaves is to be cooked by them.

[Quantum TD]

I'm stockpiling 1.6D motors as we speak. I figure I'll buy a farm, grow soybeans, and use the 1.6 IDIs as generator motors running off the sybean juice.

Then, have a fleet of diesels in the barn.

Whadya think?