n/a + turbo question

[dogday]

howdy all - new here - kudos to nogama3 for directing me here

My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere - I searched but did not find... :?

I have a normally aspirated '96 Golf Diesel with 64bhp.  I've just been given a scrap '93 Turbo Diesel - 75 bhp no-intercooler model.  

On the basis my existing engine is quite strong & has recent history & cambelt etc, can I just whip the turbo and intake off the scrap car & bolt it on my diesel?

What else would I need - fuel pump - injectors etc?

Basically are the engine internals (specifically the CR) & gearbox the same?

I don't want to swap the whole engine over as  my N/A engine has 140k miles & full history with recent belt change & pulls nice & strong & the TD engine has 185k miles & no history at all - mechanic has confirmed no recent work at all.

Also where are the engine & gearbox codes - I could not find & I just want to confirm exactly which engines I have.

I'm stripping the TD for a bunch of parts (mainly interior) anyway I just figured that a free turbo was cool - could always add an intercooler later - I'm new to the whole diesel tuning thing - always had <ahem> 'non-diesels' before...

Sorry so many questions - this site is a revelation.

DD

[burn_your_money]

Welcome to the site.

I'll start by saying that I'm not familiar with the non turbo 1.9s so take everything with a grain of salt.

Yes you can just bolt the turbo onto your engine, you will need both manifolds, the oil lines, the oil filter flange, the air box and of course the turbo. You may run into problems with the oil return. On the 1.9s there is a hole in the back of the block that the return screws into, I don't know if yours will have this or not. If not you can use a 1.6TD oil pan (or modify yours) but you will need a custom drain then as a 1.6 one will not work (too short). I'm not sure if your engine has oil squirters or not but if it doesn't I'd strongly recommend an EGT gauge, boost gauge and an air/oil cooler. Even if you do have oil squirters it's still a good idea.
You don't need the injectors or pump, you can use the NA stuff however when you have boost the pump won't add more fuel to compensate for the extra air, but that is actually a good thing (lower EGTs, less soot)

Check www.brokevw.com for where to find the gear box code.

[dogday]

Cheers for the response - quick couple of dumb questions... Oil squirters?

also if the pump won't flow extra fuel for the extra air on boost - surely that means no (or very little) extra power?

Or am i dumber than I look?

DD

[Gearhead]

Want to sell that 1.9 after you steal all of the fun parts off of it?

[dogday]

Want to sell that 1.9 after you steal all of the fun parts off of it?

Possibly...

Is it just the motor you want - or do you want the whole car?  - comes free with the engine...

After I've had the bits I want obviously....

DD

[bevboyy]

If you do decide to install the turbo on your block, you should also make sure you run a proper air/oil cooler. Just running the stock heat exhanger is not enough on a n/a block. If you do decide to keep the stock n/a pump have it retimed to turbo specs (ie: from .88 to 1.00) and increase your max fuel screw a bit. You'll smoke a but more off boost, but will perform much better when on boost.. Also you will definitely want to upgrade your exhaust as the stock one is piss poor...

[Gearhead]

Hrmm... Where is the car?  I don't really care for the car, but the engine is interesting.

[dogday]

The car is in Devon - TQ14 area.

I have been assured it runs fine, but cannot vouch for that as the goddamn aftermarket immobiliser is quite effective & I lack the key for it...

Note that I may well be having the gearbox off it as well, as the box on my real car drones so bad its like driving a Lancaster bomber at 50mph...

DD

[burn_your_money]

Are you sure it isn't a bad wheel bearing?

[Audi80]

Pistons and connecting rods are different on 1,9NA engine. But donīt worry, these will be just fine too. Iīm using 1,9 NA pistons in my Scirocco. Use the turbo fuel pump too.

[dogday]

Are you sure it isn't a bad wheel bearing?

have changed all 4 bearings in the last month & then the thieving &*^% at my local MOT garage 'claimed' to have changed the rear two again due to excessive wear & basic old age... funny how the bearing caps are the same ones I hammered on a month ago.... :roll:

Still I have my MoT & they have lost my business...

DD

btw Thanks to all the advice guys. Seriously appreciated - & I have plenty more dumb questions lined up

[regcheeseman]

Glad I read this post.....

I've got a 1.6 GTD engine at the mo and was considering swapping to a 1.9.

I've also got a 1.9 TD cylinder head as well.

So I can buy a much cheaper 1.9NA motor, swap the heads.

Swap all the fuel related stuff and turbo from the GTD and end up with a 1.9GTD right?

[dogday]

Cool - another Devonian

Well Gearhead has 1st dibs on my TD 1.9 block, but if he don't want it are you interested Mr RegCheeseman?

Also any mk3 Glof parts I don't want?

DD

[regcheeseman]

Hell yeah me want! . Shipping to Georgia is gonna be a tad expensive for Gearhead!

If the blocks any good that's all I need, I bought a complete engine and the bottom end was scrap, also had no rings!

Mine whines like a git too, it aint the box and I've now had three sets of front wheels bearings, it aint them either!

Where are you? Are you on South West dubs?

[dogday]

Ok then matey - whats it worth to you?  :wink:

Its still in the car - I will be pulling it out as soon as my dad clears one of his triumph roadsters (or the 750 bhp chevy ) off his drive & makes room for me to break it.

Hope fully within the next couple of weeks - before the builders get stuck into my house :roll:

Its in the TQ14 area and no I'm not  on South West dubs yet... - oooh hang on a mo'... Now i am... :wink:

DD