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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: bert on April 23, 2007, 11:44:34 pm

Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on April 23, 2007, 11:44:34 pm
Right lads,one for you  :wink:
My GTD is finished,will be on the road 1st may,i have drove it and its great,the motor is a vw remanufactured AAZ with a new bosch standard pump,the turbo is a Garrett T3 off the 1.6D,the exhaust is 2.5 inch straight through with only a rear silencer.i am asking if i can spool the turbo a little quicker without altering the fuel screw which is still sealed and has not been adjusted.The poor aneroid pin has been ground and has made the car unbelievable under boost,The pump has no starwheel or anything like that,just a big spring and diaphram where the pin is bolted to under the top cap,so,will altering the aneroid spring pressure let the extra fueling come on quicker,at a lower psi pressure???
Also,i need to advance the pump from 0.8mm to 1.0 as advised by members on here,will this help turbo spooling or just lumpy cold starts?
Guys.always a pleasure  :wink:
Bert
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on April 24, 2007, 12:02:37 am
heres what your dealing with  :wink:

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/ebay05022.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/ebay05015.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/ebay05016.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/ebay05017.jpg)

Bert
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: lord_verminaard on April 24, 2007, 07:42:06 am
Holy crap nice GTD!!! :)  Advancing the pump should help spool a little faster, but you will really see the best results if you can turn the fuel screw up a little.  With a modified aneroid pin, you might see some smoke under boost though but I'd say for most it's livable with the power output.  ;)

That car is really pretty.  Is that a factory VW color?

Brendan
84 Scirocco 8v <-- TDI in progress
01 Jeep TJ 4.0
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: Vincent Waldon on April 24, 2007, 08:37:54 am
Others will chime in, but IMHO:

- boost is fuel... pretty much pure and simple... you've tweaked the fuel other ways (boost pin)... the big screw is the real deal.  Do 1/8 of a turn at a time... ideally you have an EGT so you know when you've gone too far.

- a T3 will take its time spooling no matter what... 3000 RPM seems to be about average for most people, even with fuel/exhaust tweaks.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on April 24, 2007, 09:44:05 am
If this is a GTD then where are you hiding the intercooler? :shock:

If this is an otherwise standard TD pump then running it at 0.8mm is wrong and more like n/a settings. Should be 1.0mm or perhaps go for 1.05mm

Nice and clean car though :wink:
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: 935racer on April 24, 2007, 09:51:06 am
Get a 2.5" downpipe, that stock one is killing your spooling, turn up your fuel as well. I've never seemed to have any problem making 25psi+ at 3000rpms.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on April 24, 2007, 11:40:10 am
A ball and spring boost controler helps my t3 spool up sooner.  evven if you set it below stock boost it will help.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on April 24, 2007, 11:51:00 am
1st thing,thanks lads for the replys  :wink:
Brendan,the paint is factory it is called gambia red,LA3B code.
Mark the autodata diesel book says 0.8mm for the pump timing,yet the SB in my jetta is 0.95 if i remember,strange the AAZ is so far retarded,must be emissions and cat related,i will put it to 1.0 and try it.
Mark,intercooler is a problem,where to fit it and also the piping,its a nightmare trying to sort it out to be honest,but i will do it one day  :wink:
Finally 935racer this is what im using...

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/Image001.jpg)

and this

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/citigolf_2006/Image000.jpg)

so,its not worth me trying to adjust the aneroid spring pressure,as there is no starwheel?? i need to crack the magic screw?  :twisted:

Bert
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: deepmud on April 24, 2007, 12:55:48 pm
yes you need to get to the magic screw. be ready for "wow".
And smoke.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: 935racer on April 24, 2007, 02:55:48 pm
Bert I forgot to mention thats a very clean and sorted mk1!

The downpipe is where you will see the best gains, the stock one is really choking your spool up and putting your egt's higher than need be.

And definately crack the magic screw (after you do the downpipe so your egt's don't go through the roof.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on April 24, 2007, 03:47:23 pm
[Mark the autodata diesel book says 0.8mm for the pump timing,yet the SB in my jetta is 0.95 if i remember,strange the AAZ is so far retarded,must be emissions and cat related,i will put it to 1.0 and try it.
Mark,intercooler is a problem,where to fit it and also the piping,its a nightmare trying to sort it out to be honest,but i will do it one day  :wink:
Finally 935racer this is what im using...


Sorry Bert didn't sink in about the AAZ :roll:

Book in front of me says 0.83 to 0.97 test range. Set to 0.9mm

This should shoot along. I just bought granny a GTD but she had a mk2 Polo that I was tempted to put a TD in. I think it would have been a little dangerous with no brake servo. Exciting though :lol:
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: HarryMann on April 27, 2007, 03:27:50 pm
Bert, howdy,

Coming on fine then,  what bore is that stainless exhaust, 2.25"? A friend just made me a 2.5" one for my 1.9TD, which is now stripped down to the crank (like going backwards before going forwards again)... but expecting some real torque at last for pulling this Tranporter along once its all back together... Screw that fuel screw in a wee bit, even if you have to back-off your home-brew LDA pin.

Rgds

Harry
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on April 27, 2007, 11:21:48 pm
Hi harry,the exhaust is 2.5" straight through,just a rear box,no center one  :wink:  im taxing it today if the post office let me,then its jump in and play  :twisted:
BVF then lads for the meet??????
Bert
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on April 28, 2007, 05:22:23 am
Hi Bert
What you doing about insurance? I wanted to drop a TD into a mk2 Passat from a dead Mk2 Passat and I made the mistake of asking the Insurance co. They said they only allow alloy wheels as mods! I'm thinking of taking the car off the road for a year and changing the details at DVLA because I suspect that this is where the insurance co gets its info on the car.

What did the did the MOT crew base the emissions on?
Cheers
Mark
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: stewardc on April 28, 2007, 10:27:09 am
Quote from: 935racer
Get a 2.5" downpipe, that stock one is killing your spooling, turn up your fuel as well. I've never seemed to have any problem making 25psi+ at 3000rpms.


X2 I changed the downpipe to a PP pipe (2.5") and couldn't believe the difference in spooling with my 1.6/T3 combo. Now with the T3 and downpipe on my new AAZ, I'm expecing even more.
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on April 28, 2007, 12:36:37 pm
Mark,the insurance is £135 fully comp,with garenteed £3000 value,all mods declared,limited mileage of 3000,probably wont even do that many miles,i sent the logbook off and its now 1896cc, and it says AAZ for  the engine number,so im straight.
The mot was a pass  :wink:  im a mot tester  :lol:
Bert
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: Mark(The Miser)UK on May 01, 2007, 02:11:00 am
Thanks
Is that cherished car type insurance?

Drove 'Granny's GTD down to Bristol airport. It goes well; but there's something about it that makes me want to stick to a mk2 Passat estate. Maybe I feel safer in a long car :shock: Maybe its the gearbox?
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: rubadubdub on May 01, 2007, 10:01:29 am
Who's that insurance with, it's really cheap? My girlfriend just inherited a 2l vetra to learn to drive in and got insured for £500 on provisional licence compared with 400 for me. 8+ years experience, no crashes/points and 2 years NCD is worth 100 quid off!

Also what did that turbo come off? I swear the one on my GTD has coolant pipes attached to it too, tho i may be wrong. Did they change the design at any point?
Title: right or wrong?
Post by: bert on May 01, 2007, 11:19:52 am
Alright lads,the insurance is classic policy,its a good deal,with Footman James,cradley heath  :wink:  2 mins from my house
My jetta GTD has a garrett T2 water cooled on it,its a 1990 H reg,the turbo on the mk1 is off a 1986 golf 1.6TD engine code JR,its a garrett T3,and is well suited to an AAZ,i have set the timing today to 1.0mm from 0.85 and its slightly quicker and runs smoother,i changed the thrust bearing in the rear of the box,put new gearbox oil in,fitted my new injector steel lines,changed oil again,and now its sorted,
Bert