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Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on March 31, 2007, 11:21:28 pm
leaking out the square hole in the side of the pump, got all the receipts back to the original owner of the car, i've recently rolled over 300,000km, it was still on the original water pump.  Buddies gonna help me install it on monday.  Sucks when parts break on saturday and you can't get them anywhere.

any tips guys?

 i'm bored, and can't go anywhere  :(
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: jtanguay on April 01, 2007, 12:36:29 am
you replacing the whole thing or just the pump impellar part???

if just the pump impellar then make sure you dont gall the soft aluminum sealing surface! sometimes the gasket material can get pretty crusty, and i'm sure after 300'000 it won't be easy to clean off!  i think using a plastic putty knife or something like that should do it.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: burn_your_money on April 01, 2007, 07:19:16 am
I'd remove the whole WP assembly from the engine and then replace the guts in it. Thise bolts along the side that hopld it together will break very easily. Soak them, heat them and get a good grip in them. You may want to buy a whole new housing and save yourself the trouble.

BlacktieGTD just replaced his pump and documented it in his thread, I think it's in the general section. He said NAPA has teh cheapest pumps. I know his is a rabbit but its all put together the same, or close enough
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: RabbitJockey on April 01, 2007, 09:38:08 am
be careful, the bolts will probably all snap off....
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 01, 2007, 11:37:49 am
i'm not looking for the cheapest pump, i'm looking for a the most reliable, this is one job i don't want to do again any time soon, plus having a/c makes it even more fun.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: smutts on April 01, 2007, 12:14:24 pm
If you're replacing the entire water pump, instead of snapping off all the wretched, siezed 10mm bolts, splitting the water pump. Go get some curved spanners so as to unbolt the alternator pig iron without disturbing the injection pump. Is impossible elsewise.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Wingaman on April 01, 2007, 02:45:38 pm
square hole ? where it is ?

Normaly is leaking from the shaft.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 01, 2007, 05:51:34 pm
apparently it's the weep hole
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 01, 2007, 08:13:52 pm
do i need to remove the injector pump when this is done? how much of a chance is there that i'll mess this up
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: burn_your_money on April 01, 2007, 08:23:48 pm
I always remove the entire pump and I never had had to remove the pump. If you were doing your t-belt at the same time I'd replace the pump. You will have to fight with the top two bolts on the mount (the ones barried behind the IP). Use 1/4 drive and a swivel and you should be able to get them alright.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 01, 2007, 09:33:03 pm
Quote from: libbybapa
I've used the "S" shaped wrenches to reach those two bolts.

Andrew


waht size are they? i'll pick up the wrenches
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 02, 2007, 12:20:48 am
i'll just grab a whole set from canadian tire, then return em after.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 03, 2007, 12:54:19 am
changed it, didnt' need any s wrench, didn't need to remove any of hte injector pump bolts.

had to go in there again and reseat the thermostat housing.

car sounds different now, has almost a rasp to it, like a lifter tick, oil pressure etc is ok, dunno what's going on.
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 03, 2007, 10:42:39 am
uh oh, new problem

pumps in, no leaks, it's good.

took her for a drive and the engine is much more "tractory". louder than before

seemed a bit down on power in the lower rpm, bun ran ok

drove it into work today, 25km, and near the end of the trip, it got MUCH louder and was hesitating, way down on power, sounds like an aircooled beetle on acceleration, or lack there of.  

any idea guys? this car has 305,000km, injectors were done not too long ago, and the injector pump has never been done.

running b5 in it.  is it time to send my pump to giles?

my mechanic suggested disconnecting each injector at idle to see if the sound gets any different, gonna try that later on today
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: jtanguay on April 03, 2007, 12:09:45 pm
maybe there's an airlock impeding coolant flow??? try to bleed that out asap!
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 03, 2007, 01:06:56 pm
Quote from: jtanguay
maybe there's an airlock impeding coolant flow??? try to bleed that out asap!


coolant temps are good though, wouldn't that cause some high temps?
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 17, 2007, 09:57:11 pm
mechanic looked at her today.  a piece of metal got into the timing belt, my lifter closest to the belt is in multiple pieces, camshaft is chipped on the edges  for that lifter, new lifters going in, new cam too.  he'll see how it sounds after that, not sure if i bent any valves yet.  :(
Title: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: Cheesetoast on April 17, 2007, 11:16:16 pm
doh, any idea on cost to replace the valves?
Title: Re: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: wildenbeast on August 10, 2010, 04:29:23 pm
My 14 month old waterpump went today.  I am interested in finding the cast one mentioned by Andrew.  I searched but didn't find much.  Anyone know where to find these?

If you heat up very hot the housing and small bolts a few times and douse them with penetrent they usually come free.  Many of the stock pump/housing combo units are assembled using loctite.    :roll:  Add a little rust to the scene and you can very easily snap every bolt.  Whenever I get a new housing I remove each of the bolts and reinstall with anti-sieze rather than loctite.   :wink: Get the cast impeller variety rather than the plastic or stamped steel ones.  Any know where to get cast ones?

Andrew
Title: Re: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: RadoTD on August 10, 2010, 05:54:07 pm
I got a Febi-Bilstein (sp) that had cast aluminum impellers. Ordered through Worldpac... I assume it's the same from them for Canada and US
Title: Re: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: dankcorey22 on August 10, 2010, 07:16:05 pm
Yep all my bolts broke off on my pulley and the water pump it self.

Does anyone know of the parts # of the pulley or the water pump body?
Title: Re: Well, my waterpump finally went
Post by: theman53 on August 10, 2010, 09:05:47 pm
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xo5jrvrenyj2bd450txonya1&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282823@JETTATDI&year=1986&cid=16@CoolingSystem&gid=2208@WaterPump (http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xo5jrvrenyj2bd450txonya1&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282823@JETTATDI&year=1986&cid=16@CoolingSystem&gid=2208@WaterPump)

This is the ones I usually pick from on autohaus. With or without the housing :D