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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: SMOKEYDUB on July 23, 2006, 11:04:24 am
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Me and the doc yesterday ripped off my monster piece of crap turbo and through on a k24. Well 1st is useless and second is prwetty bad to but i havent really beaten it up bad yet so im not sure what third is like. From a roll in second i can hit it and the tires will start spining. I have 205 50 r15 s on this thing. gosh i love the quick spooling.
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yea i wasted a g35 coupe yesterday in my gst a few days ago. the worst part is my car is almost all stock except 18 pounds on the 16g manifold turbo back and rewire fuel pump. i ran em from a dig and wasted the tires into 2nd and pulled past him and he couldnt believe it. :-) boost rocks
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back on topic, Smokey's jetta does move pretty good. Still need to tie up a few loose ends, then dial up the boost controller some more. K24's really rock! No match for my ecodiesel passat though. :lol: :roll:
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Sounds like you need some real rubber. :D
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what mods? i know theres a giles pump, but what else?
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just a rebuilt bottom end with a few other small things done to the bottom to make sure it will stay together with my driving habbits. A 1.6 hyd cyl head ported and polishe anbd a good intercooler.giles pump and k24 thats all i can think of.
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that's grand. if i only i could part with the kizzle for a giles pump.
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Smokey,Does your engine run clean on 25 psi or is it in need of more boost?
Just don't hold her at 27+psi for extended peroids :twisted:.Anyways glad to hear that you've got some boost again :lol:.
Eco diesel passat whats up with that Dr?
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Sounds like you need a bigger turbo, I bet your drive pressures are way out to wack, try a .48 turbine with a 50 trim compressor.
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Eco diesel passat whats up with that Dr?
I'm being VERY sarcastic. hehe. The passat (the one you did the crank fix on TYVM!) is quite the slug, especially now that the A/C is (thankfully) working.
Smokeydub's intercooler is by far the most effective I've seen in some time. Once it's shrouded properly, it should be good for some rediculously higher boost levels.
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Next summer I should have no problem in the purchase of one..... Should be interesting with a K26 turbo but I think a k24 turbo will be just as sweet
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back on topic,
Smokeydub, I've got a good race lined up for you with a guy here at work. Turbo 2.2L dodgejunk.
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oh no you didn't, what does he have? stock or modified?
you should be flattered the 2.2l is based off of the 1.7l and the dodge 2.4l was based off of the 2.2l
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theres some kid at my school with one of those, he always tries to spin the tires in the parking lot, it's pretty funny. stupid rabbit wanna be omni/horizons
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oh no you didn't, what does he have? stock or modified?
you should be flattered the 2.2l is based off of the 1.7l and the dodge 2.4l was based off of the 2.2l
homebrew intercooler, 15 psi, turbo II intake manifold, and it's really not fast at all. it barely beat the diesel rabbit i'm working on.
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sounds interesting. i think i will shroud the rad and steal my friends set of slicks for a weekend and track it.
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The K24 woke that machine up, lol he let it out into first hammered it and the tires screamed, then power to second and they screamed louder until he caught traction...... :twisted:
It was open dwn pipe, so after every shift you hear a wicked howl from the front of the car
I can't even imagine what traction will be like when he add's boost and nitrous..... all I can think of is permanent slicks.... :P
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so when i get my intercooler installed, up the boost to 15-20, how you think my car will do? its got added fuel right now but thats about it.
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It all depends on the age, driving style, size of intercooler, piping to intercooler, exhaust, howmuch fuel at idle, max fuel at full rev.....
I ran 18 s with no intercooler, modded LDA pin, extra fuel, no governor mod, and straight exhaust, and stock clutch
with intercooler, you will notice eaiser power potential, and cooler EGT, make sure the piping to the turbo and intercooler is fairly straight, and as short as possible.
why not run a air to water intercooler?
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So just to have an idea - how much power (+/-) are you getting out of this?
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whats a good size of intercooler piping as well?
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how's the low end? i'm thinking of a k24 on my 1.9td, but don't want to completely kill the low end power
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i have no idea about the power but i know my car is light i weighed it with 3/4 tank of fuel and me out of it and it was 2350 or something.i weigh 150 lbs soo do the math.i am running 2.5 inch intercooler piping. dr diesel has experience with k24s on 1.9s they might spool to late for your liking but will give you much better topend power. i think im at max boost at 2500 ish which isnt that high.the giles pump does wonders for low end torque on a 1.6 so i think that is the biggest contributor to power gains it is alot different then all of the modded pumps i have ever done.
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so 2.5 inch intercooler piping, up the boost to say 20ish, eventually get a gilles pump, GTD injectors, add a bit more fuel...sounds good to me, i love mechanical engines :D
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It all depends on the age, driving style, size of intercooler, piping to intercooler, exhaust, howmuch fuel at idle, max fuel at full rev.....
I ran 18 s with no intercooler, modded LDA pin, extra fuel, no governor mod, and straight exhaust, and stock clutch
with intercooler, you will notice eaiser power potential, and cooler EGT, make sure the piping to the turbo and intercooler is fairly straight, and as short as possible.
why not run a air to water intercooler?
you ran 18's with how much boost? that's really weak, i know with my closed waste gate, fueling increased by only a half turn, and then with the boost pin turned around to the side that allows for the most fuel, and the star wheel down about 1.5 turns, it feels much faster than an 18 second car, but that's letting the boost get into the 20's. that's with out an intercooler, but with a 2 1/4" exhaust from the cast down pipe back.
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"feels" faster then 18s its kind of all in your head when the turbo hits you can really feel it pull but with good traction hid did like a flat 18 or something
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man if i'd go to the track with my car and only put down an 18 i'd sell my car there. :roll: so i will avoid going to the track XD
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in an a1 you should be able to get low 17' probably 16's at least
i remember a dude at the drags with an a2 jetta gasser,basic bolt ons,and it was runnin mid 17's
i got my ol jetta down to a 15.79
and that was without the 12mm pump,and the centerforce clutch,ya had to let up in between shifts to let it grab
the pump made a big difference,maybe it would do mid 15's maybe 15.3 or so maybe maybe,but ill never know now,just guessin
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so 2.5 inch intercooler piping, up the boost to say 20ish, eventually get a gilles pump, GTD injectors, add a bit more fuel...sounds good to me, i love mechanical engines :D
2.25" maximum for aftercooler piping, 2.5" creates far too large of drop in pressure. 2" Also works great. Let me know when your down here next I'll make your car pretty quick 8)
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how's the low end? i'm thinking of a k24 on my 1.9td, but don't want to completely kill the low end power
The k24's and t3's are great on the 1.9's, when tuned right you will find you have a more useable power band than you ever did with the tiny stock turbos, but if you just throw one on with no tuning you might find it laggy. There are quite few things to get the larger turbos spooling up sooner.
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i put a bigger set of tires that have fairly ne tread on it and its alot better. 1st gear still spins good and its a nice hard chirp/spin (depends on pavement) so i feel that my car hooks a *** load better . My water pump impeller walked off a couple days ago so i havent been driving there for no really good launches. I will try to keep you guys posted.