VWDiesel.net The IDI, TDI, and mTDI source.
Engine Specific Info and Questions => Non VW Group Diesel => Topic started by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 08, 2012, 12:48:51 am
-
This popped up on a nationwide craigslist search.
Just thought it was ...... wild (odd neat crazy etc...)
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/2888885004.html
-
Oddball stuff (well, at least odd for the USA) turns up pretty regularly here on the west coast.
I have seen a Mitsubishi pickup turbo diesel, a Nissan pickup diesel, a Maxima diesel, a BMW diesel, one of these, a few Pugs, a couple diesel Volvos a bunch of Caddys and like a million 300Ds at the junkyard by my house, all in the last year... and that's just the diesel exotic stuff.
So this stuff is out there, and hopefully some of it's still alive.
-
Oddball stuff (well, at least odd for the USA) turns up pretty regularly here on the west coast.
I have seen a Mitsubishi pickup turbo diesel, a Nissan pickup diesel, a Maxima diesel, a BMW diesel, one of these, a few Pugs, a couple diesel Volvos a bunch of Caddys and like a million 300Ds at the junkyard by my house, all in the last year... and that's just the diesel exotic stuff.
So this stuff is out there, and hopefully some of it's still alive.
the mistubishi TD pickups are RARE.. and they were great.
so is anything nissan. nissan built GREAT diesel engines
so did isuzu.. they are great diesels..
its werid how much exotic diesel stuff there is on this side of the country..
go to corvallis/eugene area in oregon, theres diesels everywhere tho..
-
Oddball stuff (well, at least odd for the USA) turns up pretty regularly here on the west coast.
I have seen a Mitsubishi pickup turbo diesel, a Nissan pickup diesel, a Maxima diesel, a BMW diesel, one of these, a few Pugs, a couple diesel Volvos a bunch of Caddys and like a million 300Ds at the junkyard by my house, all in the last year... and that's just the diesel exotic stuff.
So this stuff is out there, and hopefully some of it's still alive.
so did isuzu.. they are great diesels..
My dad had an Isuzu P'up TD 2wd when I was a kid, what a great truck. Years later he had an Isuzu NPR flip cab with a intercooled TD and a 5psd manual..rack body. Was actually fun to bomb around dirt roads of NH, like a rally truck! Great memories!
-
I wanted to pull the whole motor from that Mitsu but a lot of critical parts had been taken from it... it was 4x4 too IIRC.
It had what looked like a Japanese copy of the Bosch pump found on our engines.
One thing I really don't see too much around here at junkyards is anything VW turbo-diesel. It's all N/A with a million miles on it.
-
I drove one of those Lincoln Mark VIIs about 10 years ago when there was one for sale for about $1000. I wasn't particularly impressed, but I'll bet the BMW 524TD would be a different story. I remember seeing one of those too for $700 about 5 years ago, but by then I was buried in MBs.... Problem with either was they only came with ZF slushboxs
-
Most of those I see for sale seem to always have HG issues.. Did drive a rusty one once.. Actually didn;t run THAT much worse than the throttle body injected gasser, which I had at the time.. Still have bad memories of the air suspension and the electronic doo dads blowing apart at every spongy airspring turn....
-
I have missed 2 of the TD Lincolns in the Seattle area in the past couple of years. Both had air suspension problem.
In addition to my VW diesel stuff, I have a '82 Volvo diesel wagon (for sale), and Audi 5000TD, 3 Turbo Diesel Rangers plus a TD parts Ranger and an '86 F-350 dually with a 7.3 & a Banks Turbo kit. I have also owned a 504 TD wagon, an '84 Tempo diesel, and a slew of 5.7 diesel GM cars, including 2 diesel Toronados, a diesel Eldo, a Cutlas Cierra (FWD) and a Cutlas Supreme (RWD) both with V6 diesels. Also a small Caddy with a 4.2 V8 "baby" diesel, as well. The RWD Cutlas got 38 mpg on the highway and had under 50K on the clock. I was a huge moron to have sold it.
Its an addiction.
-
Toby, you happen to have a 5.7 gov spring laying around?
-
I will look and see if I still have a pump laying around.
-
I have missed 2 of the TD Lincolns in the Seattle area in the past couple of years. Both had air suspension problem.
In addition to my VW diesel stuff, I have a '82 Volvo diesel wagon (for sale), and Audi 5000TD, 3 Turbo Diesel Rangers plus a TD parts Ranger and an '86 F-350 dually with a 7.3 & a Banks Turbo kit. I have also owned a 504 TD wagon, an '84 Tempo diesel, and a slew of 5.7 diesel GM cars, including 2 diesel Toronados, a diesel Eldo, a Cutlas Cierra (FWD) and a Cutlas Supreme (RWD) both with V6 diesels. Also a small Caddy with a 4.2 V8 "baby" diesel, as well. The RWD Cutlas got 38 mpg on the highway and had under 50K on the clock. I was a huge moron to have sold it.
Its an addiction.
Interested in selling any TD Rangers? I may have a buyer for you.
-
Sure PM me with a phone number. They wouldn't be cheap however.
-
Hey Toby, which Trans did you Cutlass have?
-
I drove one of those Lincoln Mark VIIs about 10 years ago when there was one for sale for about $1000. I wasn't particularly impressed, but I'll bet the BMW 524TD would be a different story. I remember seeing one of those too for $700 about 5 years ago, but by then I was buried in MBs.... Problem with either was they only came with ZF slushboxs
I owned one of these lincoln diesels for about 5 months once. IMO, when the air suspension is functional, it can't be beat. I was in the midwest at the time, and the car was a big, floating fuel sipper with sinfully comfortable seats, and a awkward little trunk. All the digital stuff was a problem too, had some issues with the oil pressure sensor throwing false readings every 30 seconds.
As far as a highway cruiser, it was above and beyond my 300D, it was faster, more comfortable, way better fuel economy, better ride, ect. However, as a full piece of engineering, is was not as well done. Its a huge car, and the trunk pissed me off every time I opened it, comes with a mini spare that was sort of thrown in and bolted down in a very awkward space. The car wasn't really refined, it was great and superior in many ways, but over all, an inferior car to the 300D.
I can't say enough about how awesome that air suspension is when its in good shape though. I happened to go down the same 50 miles of rutted dirt road in both cars, and the 300D could barely make 30mph and was rattling the heck out of you at that speed, while the lincoln could do an astonishing 70.
Ironically, at the same time, my friend was big into 524TDs and had two of them, and for the same engine, power, speed, and economy, the feel of the car was so amazingly different. Those 524s have a nailed to the road lead sled feel that is just great. If you can find one, those are awesome cars. I wasn't too hot on the engine as far as maintenance, it came nowhere near the durability of the MB iron block/head double like timing chain, but it was a very smooth powerful diesel.
-
Also got 20+ MG with air ride int he Vixen.
(http://www.vixenrv.com/coaches/se660/se-660-1-b.jpg)
-
Also got 20+ MG with air ride int he Vixen.
(http://www.vixenrv.com/coaches/se660/se-660-1-b.jpg)
omfg that thing is UGLY.
-
Is there a diesel pusher that isn't?
-
that thing is a pusher?!?!?!?!
holy crap, way cool!
its still way ugly tho, just a little cooler..
-
heh, I actually think its kind of bad ass looking.
I saw one in person from a distance once, they are really low right? like minivan height? also, aren't they usually a 5-speed manual?
I think I could quickly fall in love with that camper, however ugly. ;D
-
what is it, GM van frame, and a Renault TD?
-
what is it, GM van frame, and a Renault TD?
Think its the same BMW 6cyl TD in the 524s, combined with a BMW 5-speed? Pretty sure the drivetrain is 100% BMW, but needs verification. Not sure on the body work
-
what is it, GM van frame, and a Renault TD?
Think its the same BMW 6cyl TD in the 524s, combined with a BMW 5-speed? Pretty sure the drivetrain is 100% BMW, but needs verification. Not sure on the body work
hmm... BMW eh?
i know the WHEELS are GM produced.. but not positive on much else..
*edit*
HAH!! i knew it! the FRAME is GM produced..
and you could get these with a 231 Buick V6 also..
and im assuming these are FWD motor homes? it talks about the use of trans-axles in them..
(these things were built in Pontiac, Mi., so go figure, they use GM parts)
-
BMW 2.5 TD pusher with rear transaxle, GM maybe?
Ride height is tough to call, because its air bags.
It's sort of a modernized lightweight GMC motorhome in design philosophy.
-
durr...
pusher..
engine in the rear!
-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIXEN-21-TD-AMERICAN-RV-B-M-W-POWERED-MOTORHOME-CAMPER-CLASSIC-INC-ALL-SPARES-/290685050407
-
He is clearly lying about the mileage, though.....
-
Oftentimes noted as the "Driver's RV",[who?] what made it stand out was a very low center of gravity and a very wide stance. Instead of lumbering down the highway, it had a manual transmission and when the turbo kicked in it zoomed down the highway. Owners often noted when they first got theirs up to 100 MPH, and yet it averaged about 30 MPG using a BMW M21 turbo-diesel engine. Due to emissions concerns this was one of the last to be imported into the US for years. Wind tunnel testing was used to create a compeletely smooth exterior encased in fiberglass top and bottom, which gave it the extra advantage it needed to get those numbers.
from the vixen wiki. My friend has one, and reports it does get around that, but his Caddy does better.
-
He can report all he wants. If those things got 32 MPG, on their best day, they would be the hottest thing on the planet, when you consider that most gas powered motorhomes of that size get about 8 mpg. I have a buddy with an earlier model GM motorhome that claims he gets 10 or 11 MPG and people don't believe him. The TD LeSharo barely gets 20 MPG on the flat, and it is much smaller and lighter than the Vixen.
It is easy to trick/fool yourself into believing outrageous mileage on diesel vehicles because they are so hard to get consistently full of fuel, due to fuel foaming. When most people get an anomalously high reading, they stop checking the mileage and pronounce that number to be fact. I am pretty OCD about checking mileage on all of my vehicles. I have records of every gallon of fuel that has gone into the Audi and the Ranger TDs that I drive snd even though I am meticulous about my filling technique, I still occasionally get an outlier that I cant explain. 36 MPG on the Audi one tank, which is 4 MPG better than at any other time in its life, and 36.5 in the Ranger for one tank. Normally it gets 31-31 MPG. My driving routes and payload are pretty consistent as is my filling technique, so the outliers have to be in error. If one was less compulsive about filling and record keeping it would be pretty easy have even greater errors, such as this case.
-
LeSharo don't have a 5th gear, which is good, because they don't have the power to drive one.