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Engine Specific Info and Questions => Non VW Group Diesel => Topic started by: famous phil on March 29, 2010, 09:14:31 pm

Title: building an MHDi ( MTDi ) 2.2hdi
Post by: famous phil on March 29, 2010, 09:14:31 pm
 ;D Just thought I'd post some pics of some engine conversions that I've been doing since the early nineties  ;D at the moment there's a breakers I know well and have a load of damaged cars PSA's HDi's  I can buy a low milage HDi without injection system for £100 ,  , So all I need to do is design an injection system for the job ,,,,
 
The campers below are fitted with = red one 12valve 2.1td we'll be changing the pump to bosch at the weekend ,, the other blue camper is fitted with a 306DTurbo engine xantia inlet manifold running underslung intercoolers  ,
 
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if all goes well will build an MTDi / MHDi for the 305 van

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Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: snakemaster on March 30, 2010, 03:49:35 pm
MTDI pug hdi i would love to see that   pug idi injector brake psi 140 bar , hdi 2000 bar ish and the hdi is about 7 stage injector too,
the pug engine sits in there nice , 1z tdis are cheap now
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: famous phil on April 03, 2010, 01:43:44 am
 :) 1Z's are cheap now  some friends have these in there campers and to make them go as well as my Peugeot powered campers means the life is greatly shortened = I've built some hybrid injection pumps using pumps collected up from later VW TDi's 220/300bar , these had rods through the block or cracks in the block behind the flywheel so parts were really cheap ,these parts will be great to power the direct injection HDi , for these injectors to fit the HDi cylinder head 0.8mm to a depth of about 15mm then about 1.4mm to a further depth about 6mm needs machining , the lower portion is identical ,
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: snakemaster on April 11, 2010, 04:56:13 am
if you got a bit of spair time i would make or get a pump bracket to bolt on to the hdi engine to take the landrover 200/300 tdi ve bosch pump and put the 300 injectors on to , you will need the same size cam pully (on hdi)to fit the bosch pump and maby a extra tencher/idler , the pump would need tweeked up for max revs/ power, injector spray patern may be a problem, 300tdi injectors are 230bar not shure the nozzle size
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 12, 2010, 08:21:18 pm
Forget the engine, I want that 305 van!  :(
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: famous phil on April 24, 2010, 02:46:03 pm
 ;D I've been building mechanically operated pumps - Bosch electronic type pumps like fitted to the VW TDi , I've built the pump and have some injectors from a BMW to fit the HDi engine  :) the pump bracket I'm going to use is from a pug D turbo engine

The pug van above is to be fitted with a HDi gearbox and 2.1 bottom end I think  - just picked an engine up today , it took plenty of searching to find a 305 van  this good , now has PAS and lecy windows  :) , just like another pals that had been a local delivery van warehouse stored fitted with 1.9TD ,

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Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: darrenjlobb on April 30, 2010, 03:23:42 pm
Does the XUD mecanical pump bracket bolt right on to the DW10 HDI motor??
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: famous phil on May 03, 2010, 01:06:31 am
 :) Hi, I've not actually tried bolting one on yet , I've looked at the casting and believe it will bolt on , I'll try one on as soon as I get chance  :)  which is going to be very soon- blew head gasket on DTurbo engine due to boost gauge giving wrong reading and me turning boost up , I fitted another gauge and was hitting over 25psi  ::)
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: darrenjlobb on May 06, 2010, 03:54:38 am
Heh i see 35psi daily on my XUD...
Title: Re: you'll never geus what !! building an MHDi ( MTDi ) next
Post by: famous phil on June 15, 2010, 03:57:24 pm
 :) been quite busy with other work , the campers still running with D-turbo lump just tightened head studs to F,T ,just got round to fitting the pump bracket  two bolts fit - one mount point needed machining other still needs  looking at ,

 pumps fixed in position, been trying to find a suitable set of injectors , bmw 320d fit and are two stage but might need pipes making ,, found some better injectors being shorter so have pipes that fit  , will check out some more when I get the chance whilst looking for a better turbo  :)

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Title: Re: building an MHDi ( MTDi ) 2.2hdi
Post by: famous phil on July 07, 2010, 04:29:15 pm
 :)  :) :)machined up another set of two stage injectors to fit ,
 Set timing up on one of my MTDi pumps , bled injectors and this is the first start up , I'm really pleased at how she sounds , sits nice and steady , just need to take this in to my factory for finale build up + fit new fuel injector pipes , pos variable vane turbo or twin turbo ( in readiness for bugjam :rolleyes: ) , then fit adaptor plate to fit my T25 / T3 camper as still designing machining parts for new high ratio gearbox to fit  , :D

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Title: Re: building an MHDi ( MTDi ) 2.2hdi
Post by: snakemaster on July 14, 2010, 06:51:39 am
some nice work there what injectors did you fit to get her going , does the hdi engine have the same cc cup in the pistons as the vw tdi ,what is the CR of the hdi.  what power you hoping to get
Title: Re: building an MHDi ( MTDi ) 2.2hdi
Post by: dts67 on July 18, 2010, 08:32:14 am
Great work mate, really admire this.
Title: Re: building an MHDi ( MTDi ) 2.2hdi
Post by: famous phil on August 12, 2010, 03:19:15 am
Hi, I've tried a couple of different injectors from BMW 320 to early transit connect , piston  crowns are similar to vw tdi , compression ratio of this engine is 18.00:1  a 2.2hdi that I'm also building is slightly lower at 17.60:1  ,  the 2.0L hdi I'm building it to be a realistic 120bhp with 196ft lbs , In a pals unit sits a very clean 305 estate that the 2.2hdi might get fitted to , I'm after a lot of power from this engine