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Title: vacuum pump
Post by: dyoungen on March 01, 2010, 09:26:48 pm
How do I tell what type of vacuum pump I have? My Jetta is a 1985 Jetta Delux n/a with a 5 speed and very little brakes.
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: Turbinepowered on March 01, 2010, 09:32:06 pm
If it looks like you have a small soup can sitting where a gas car would have a distributor, you have a rotary vane vacuum pump.

If you have a funky looking contraption like a UFO turned on its side and hanging off a shaft, with a box on the other side, you have a diaphragm pump.
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: vanbcguy on March 01, 2010, 10:39:30 pm
If it looks like you have a small soup can sitting where a gas car would have a distributor, you have a rotary vane vacuum pump.

If you have a funky looking contraption like a UFO turned on its side and hanging off a shaft, with a box on the other side, you have a diaphragm pump.

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Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: Turbinepowered on March 02, 2010, 08:27:34 am
If it looks like you have a small soup can sitting where a gas car would have a distributor, you have a rotary vane vacuum pump.

If you have a funky looking contraption like a UFO turned on its side and hanging off a shaft, with a box on the other side, you have a diaphragm pump.

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Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: dyoungen on March 03, 2010, 10:01:37 am
Thanks guys, looks like I have the rotary vane vacuum pump. Can these be rebuilt or do they have to be replaced?
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: jseeley on March 03, 2010, 10:51:44 am
Thanks guys, looks like I have the rotary vane vacuum pump. Can these be rebuilt or do they have to be replaced?

They can be rebuilt (I hear this a regular maintenance with the rotary pumps) I have a vane pump so I dunno too much else about them.

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Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: rabbitman on March 03, 2010, 11:05:11 am
IFAIK vane pumps never fail and therefore aren't rebuildable :P.

Diaphragm pumps otoh fail yearly :(
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: Turbinepowered on March 03, 2010, 12:03:21 pm
Check all your vacuum hose connections and bleed the brakes before you go shotgunning parts at the system.

As state, the rotary vane pumps are practically indestructable, and very rarely fail. Replacing a good pump with another good pump when it's a crack in the big fat vac hose to the booster that's the problem does nothing but lighten your wallet.
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: ldeikis on March 05, 2010, 07:40:37 pm
What sort of very little brakes do you have? (just to make sure we're all beating the same bush).

When the vacuum pump is kaput (or the hoses leaking horribly) the car stops fine, you just have to push like all hell on the pedal.   The pedal, in turn, feels about as giving as a brick.  Instead of going down firmly like normal, it feels like you're stepping on a...  softball maybe?  There's just the tiniest bit of give.

The vane pumps are supposed to be invincible, so look hard elsewhere before spending money.  Also, because they're invincible, they're plentiful in junkyards etc (unless someone with an earlier car swiped it--they're a straight drop in on mk1s).  PartsPlace etc sell them for an awful lot of money, but you should be able to score one used without huge difficulty.

Luke
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 10, 2010, 07:02:37 am
for picture reference..

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm307/J_holubek/Diesel/Feb2010348.jpg)

Rotary/Vane on top, Diaphragm on bottom :)
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on March 10, 2010, 07:25:40 am
put a TB cover on that thing jeremy. it will thank you next time a rock comes up that way.
Title: Re: vacuum pump
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 11, 2010, 08:32:00 pm
put a TB cover on that thing jeremy. it will thank you next time a rock comes up that way.

Haahaa NO WAY kevo I rock the no cover styleee.. I just need to get it cleaned, prepped and painted and its back on (after then engine gets a huge degrease lol