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Title: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on February 26, 2010, 05:32:12 pm
The car finally started!!! yayyyy. And i even took it out for a little boot in the stormy weather of canada. Just one problem... Nothing on my cluster works, and my rad fan doesn't work... Any suggestions? are there certain relays i need to look for?

I can post up a video of it running if people want.

Its a mk2 golf with a 1.9td, t3 turbo swap.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: burn_your_money on February 26, 2010, 05:40:29 pm
Of course we want videos :)

For the rad fan I would start by jumping the thermo switch on the rad and seeing what happens.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on February 26, 2010, 09:02:29 pm
Sounds good. Ill get a vid as soon as i get it to stop leaking coolant haha. And i also just noticed the plug on the bottom of the rad is a 3 wire plug, but on the mk3 harness its a 2 wire plug. I cant splice it in so what can i do?

And by jumping the thermo switch is that just to see if the rad fan turns on?

Also im having to jump the glow plugs everytime i start it. Apparently im missing a 350 dollar relay that turns them on right when i open the door? I was thinking i should just cut the wire and add a toggle so i can turn the plugs on and off. But im gonna head to the junk yard on monday and see what i find.

As for my dash and heater core? I dont have one. Ask me how fun that is driving in negative weather.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: lovinthedeez on February 27, 2010, 05:26:01 am
so the whole "plugs coming on when the door opens" myth is true, eh

350 bones.....ouch :(
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: theman53 on February 27, 2010, 05:32:38 am
Check out vince waldon's pimp your glowplugs for how to do them. Don't use a regular toggle that is on/off. I did for about a year and it was fine, then I forgot about running them once. It was a little warmer out and I didn't think that I had used them. I left it on for about 5 miles and had to replace all my glow plugs  >:(
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on February 27, 2010, 01:19:56 pm
Yeah apparently it starts warming the glow plugs right when you open the driver door to make it more convenient... i just wish the price was that convenient.

Ill check it out later today. If i dont find the relay at the wreckers ill have to do it.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on February 27, 2010, 02:39:58 pm
Also my gas gauge and temp dont work on the cluster. along with the speedo and such, What relay do i need?
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: Dirtrag2 on February 28, 2010, 07:16:51 am
Also my gas gauge and temp dont work on the cluster. along with the speedo and such, What relay do i need?

is your alt charging?  when mine died, the gauges stopped working too.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on February 28, 2010, 08:33:48 am
Check out vince waldon's pimp your glowplugs for how to do them. Don't use a regular toggle that is on/off. I did for about a year and it was fine, then I forgot about running them once. It was a little warmer out and I didn't think that I had used them. I left it on for about 5 miles and had to replace all my glow plugs  >:(

i wired mine up on a toggle switch, but then that is hooked to the stock GP controller, then the GP controller works the ford constant duty relay.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: GEE-BEE on February 28, 2010, 08:51:29 am
Bosch has a universal glow plug kit with relay, I will get the part #
available from Worldpac.

GB
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on February 28, 2010, 11:34:27 am
My alt is charging the battery. Im also trying to wire up all the lights. And im using the mk3 wiring harness and splicing in the mk2 plugs. I had all the running lights working then 2 wires touched and it shorted. Half the lights went out so i changed the fuse and only the back break light came on... Now the front signal and cluster wont light. And i can not for the life of my get the headlights to work. I wish i had a speedo and cluster.

I drove it to work cause i had no other car and it drove Amazing. Turbo spools so nice and quick. It pulls really hard on stock boost to. Then when i started it 20 minutes ago to come home it would barely start. It was burning alot of oil, white smoke was pouring out and if you accelerated it would studder. It finally started up fne and i drove it home.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 01, 2010, 08:16:22 am
Bump, anyone?
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: macka on March 01, 2010, 11:46:05 am
You should rewire your front headlights through a better relay, I have mine running through 2 relays direct from the battery, they are super bright now. I just traced the wiring back to the OEM relay for the lights, and I used a relay for the regular lights and another for the high beams. Now I have to wire a set of driving lights in, and I'll be happy. I was also thinking if the 2 wire plug would fit, its easier then splicing to make things work. Are you using the MK2 body harness and the MK3 engine harness? Also is it the MK3 tranny? IIRC one is mechanical and the MK3 has a digi speedo. DOes your alt have the W terminal? Sometimes when they get dirty, they don't send, it could also be shorted.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 01, 2010, 10:52:25 pm
Im using the full mk3 harness body and motor. Im just splicing in the mk2 plugs. What do you mean run it through a better relay, Do you have any pics for reference. Sorry to be a noob, im more of a residential electrician.

And i am using the mk3 tranny aswell. all i need is my cluster to work, my headlights and my rad and im gonna drive it everyday.

But it keeps having reallllly bad cold starts. It burns alot of white smoke and barely runs for like 5 minutes till its warmed up. Ill get a video tomorrow.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: rabbitman on March 01, 2010, 11:50:07 pm
This: http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/CheapTricks/Headlights.shtml#OnLineOrdering (http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/CheapTricks/Headlights.shtml#OnLineOrdering) would be perfect, I got one of these in my rabbit (I didn't get mine from this guy though, wish I had) and the lights got brighter and of course the switch will last longer now too.

He's a member on here, vwcaddy.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 02, 2010, 02:38:20 pm
Id rather just get it wired up how it is and not spend more dough. And hey my exaughst broke off today so i almost have a straight through!

Sounds Awesome...
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: Torchd on March 04, 2010, 09:33:56 am
Whats the power like??

I intend to run a similar setup!

What boost are you running? And when does your turbo spool up?
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 04, 2010, 10:27:22 am
Well i read alot of posts how the t3 is to much of a laggy spool, But i went for it anyways. It spools up really quick, Pulls hard for stock boost (which is like 7-9 for a 1.9?). Ill try and get a video on today, I still have no rad fan and no cluster... :(
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: Torchd on March 04, 2010, 11:19:19 am
Hmm.. thats what I heard, Im worried about the spool time too... I want to go all crazy with it.

a 1.9 AAZ with K24, big fmic, giles pump, big oil cooler, straight through exhaust 2.5 in, ARP headstuds, GTD sd274 nozzles and maybe some other tweeks!

So does it spool up at like 2k revs? cuz T3's and K24's in on 1.6s spool at around 3600 revs and thats stupid!

I will be waiting for the vdos..
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 04, 2010, 10:25:58 pm
Until i have a cluster i cant tell you how quick. But i ran the t3 with my 1.6 before my swap and the spool time is wayyyy quicker. Its really quick stock with a t3. If someone helped me out with how to hook my cluster up ill get a vid.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: Torchd on March 05, 2010, 11:38:16 am
I hope you get ur cluster sorted! Sorry I can;t help with that one!
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 05, 2010, 11:13:45 pm
No worries. Ill get a video soon. I prolly wont have a cluster so you'll just have to listen and watch haha.
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 06, 2010, 06:36:36 pm
Ok i tested the rad fan and it works. And ive started to wire up the mk3 wiring to the stock mk2 temp sensor. I also have all my lights working but the cluster... I cant fir the life of me figure out why the cluster isnt working. It lights up, it shows the time and kms driven but thats all. All fuses are good and the wiring is good. What else could it be?
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 07, 2010, 10:20:23 am
I just looked at the wiring for the cluster going to the fusebox and theres a few little plugs missing. Are those for the speedo and such?
Title: Re: YESSSS!!!1!!11! It actually drives!!!!
Post by: brandon5 on March 08, 2010, 08:47:56 pm
bump