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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: NintendoKD on January 26, 2010, 08:26:40 pm
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I have set out to find replacement/oem parts for the ever illusive aaz engine. I am located in the states, and for those of us in the states that need these parts it is really difficult to find what we need. I thought that also we should start to put up performance aaz sections in the FAQ section, I of course, volunteer, as over time these engines will eventually trickle over the border and more enthusiasts will be looking for performance options. So far I have found a Canadian seller:
http://www.importcarpartscanada.ca (http://www.importcarpartscanada.ca)
thanks, and hopefully, there is support from both the other side of the pond and from our friends in CANADA
as a reference the aaz was in the following cars in the following years:
Audi 80 (09/91-07/95), Volkswagen Golf, Volkswagen Transporter (T4), Volkswagen Passat, SEAT Ibiza Mk2 (02/93-08/97), SEAT Cordoba (09/93-08/97), SEAT Toledo (05/91-04/97)
some of these cars were only featured in europe, and some only in canada.
Kevin 8)
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What do you need? I have 3 shorts and 1 complete engine sitting in my driveway? And the website is just a storefront for the usual suspects online parts suppliers. As for performance parts, well, few and far between. Mostly homegrown. Wanna go faster, more fuel more boost. IMHO.
Ian
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I need to completely rebuild a cyl head. I already have thehead but will need new everything, cam followers, cam key, valve stem seals, valve guides, sensors, gaskets, everything save the head and valves and cam. I also ave the valve cover for one but not the other. Also wondering what that rubber thing is on top of the valve cover and what in the world I'm supposed to do with it? Who are the usual suspects? I am unaware of the manufacturers, and products for this engine, as this is my very first build.
thanks,
Kevin
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Here's a US version of the Canadian Worldpac dealer you've referenced above... will likely have the same AAZ inventory:
http://www.autopartsway.com/AutoParts2/index.cfm?fetch=category~ID=1994~Volkswagen~Jetta+Sedan+Normal+Diesel+Base+1.9+L4 (http://www.autopartsway.com/AutoParts2/index.cfm?fetch=category~ID=1994~Volkswagen~Jetta+Sedan+Normal+Diesel+Base+1.9+L4)
They've got the valve guides, seals, etc...
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hey, thanks vince 8) good to know, still need more than what they have online, I'll try calling tomorrow.
thanks,
Kevin
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Yeah, even in the last 6 months it seems the Worldpac inventories are going down, and the prices are definitely up. :(
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It's the rubber breather grommet ( valve Cover )
I have a complete valve cover with a cap if you need one..
GB
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the vw transporter t4 used the abl engine very similar to the aaz but it has the dip stick hole on the back of the block and a different cylinder head and m10 engine mounting bolts [timing belt end] i made the mistake of buying a aaz fro a t4 and found out this the hard way but got it to fit in the end ,almost forgot the IP bracket is different to
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It's the rubber breather grommet ( valve Cover )
I have a complete valve cover with a cap if you need one..
GB
I'll take you up on that 8)
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got it today geebee thanks man. I also found this site:
http://www.altrom.com/applications.jsp?modelId=1864676&headerId=1300 (http://www.altrom.com/applications.jsp?modelId=1864676&headerId=1300)
Appears to be extremely well thought out, and well organized. As well as having a lot of parts in their catalogue.
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New head, complete:
http://www.boraparts.com/index.php?cPath=21_27_83_128 (http://www.boraparts.com/index.php?cPath=21_27_83_128)
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After a complete rebuild and machining, I still won't have paid that much. 700 bones :o that, my friend, is a lot of dough. That is the sole reason that I bought one from someone in the classifieds, got a heck of a deal.
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i would have taken the new head had i been in your situation, and been dumping so much money into the engine, i would have spent the extra money. cause how much of your own time do you have in it? sure your time doesnt cost YOU anything, but its still effort that has to be done. i know it takes alot of time to do a full thorough rebuild on a head. 700 isnt bad is its a BRAND NEW VW head.
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I found a new one complete with valve coverassy in the factory for 375.00, paid the 150.00 for a new set of complete 155 injectors and I sent them to Giles along with my pump for a performance overhaul
( trade ) for a new T3
My head was the same stamped vw mexico.
I would of kept, but a member back east called and needed one bad so off it went.
I will probly find another complete head later this year when I return to Germany, I would rather have a German head assy for that price.. ( 675.00 )
Now moving onto another project...
P.S. I do have a super clean german ( import )AAZ pump if you are looking ( core ) not rusty
Gee-Bee
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I have a late style 1.6 pump, I'm swapping in a pug pin, and doing some modifications myself as well as a rebuild. Still not sure if I should use the dual stage aaz injectors from the aaz head I got. Both the heads I recieved have germany stamped right on em. I am currently looking for the best injectors and nozzles to use on my build as well as breaking pressure "have lots of questions on the relationship" Not really sure how timing and all equates with this. That is tho say, that I would rather have a nasty idle "like an old hot rod with a loping idle" and have better performance drive wise.
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dual stage are almost impossible to get calibrated right anymore. go with the 1.6 infectors.
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is there a difference, heard it from the grapevine there is. ;)
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the dual stage generally have larger nozzles in them. but they are so hard to calibrate that people just buy AAZ nozzles and put them in 1.6 bodies. that make more sense? cause i know of no one on here willfully running AAZ dual pops.
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so use aaz nozzles in the 1.6 bodies? best case scenario?
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You could try contacting Mark's Bug Barn directly, since that's where Worldpac gets most of their vw parts from.
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I have a set of clean aaz injector body's with new gtd .308 nozzles
These are std on 1.6 GTD motors
I purchased the from Kermatdi.com
zero time on them
150.00 set
let me know if this help's
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there are .308's on the aaz injectors that I cleaned. I think that I will take you up on those injectors GB.
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.308's are rather big if i remember right. i would go for something a bit smaller, like a .297 or something. thats what people always told me to run when i was gathering parts to puild my hot 5 pot TD..
and .308's are not stock nozzles on a GTD. not from what i read. i would still stay away from AAZ injectors/bodies as much as possible. you will not be able to service them like you can service a 1.6 injector.
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I called Altrom, the gentleman said that Napa was one of their authorized sales distributors. They can get the parts, but it's 89 bones for four, that's quite a bit for precups. Anyone have cheaper? by the way, if you use the Altrom parts catalogue, you can get part nos. and reference them to get said parts from Napa, even in the states. I need to get lifters, seals, guides, precups for both heads. All of the valves look to be in fine shape, so I'll do a regrind. Also thinking of replacing the valve seats as well I'll get the info from the Napa stor and post prices and P/N's so all can see, the other thing is that you have to pay up front at the local Napa. PITA, and not cheap. This is the main reason for putting up this post, there has got to be an easier, and cheaper way to do this. I don't mean our mutual friend Prothe either.
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Hey Rabbit , You should send a email to kermatdi and Brickwerks and inform them that there website info is incorrect
Both Show :Fratelli Bosio as 1.6 GTD .308 stock Europe Nozzles
G.B.
Just replying to what I read on there website's
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Hey Rabbit , You should send a email to kermatdi and Brickwerks and inform them that there website info is incorrect
Both Show :Fratelli Bosio as 1.6 GTD .308 stock Europe Nozzles
G.B.
Just replying to what I read on there website's
i wasnt saying that what i said is fact.
.308's are rather big if i remember right. i would go for something a bit smaller, like a .297 or something. thats what people always told me to run when i was gathering parts to puild my hot 5 pot TD..
and .308's are not stock nozzles on a GTD from what i read/remember. i would still stay away from AAZ injectors/bodies as much as possible. you will not be able to service them like you can service a 1.6 injector.
either way, i was trying to cover my a$$, just so i wouldnt get any stupid criticism. i have been wrong before, and i am going to be wrong many times in the future. deal with it. im only human, not perfect like you. i actually try and expand my knowledge on here, you just try and sell people stuff they dont need.
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Ok, this will be a double post, that is, it will be located in two places here and in the aaz parts thread. I went to my local Napa, and confirmed that they do, in fact, carry the Altrom parts inventory. I priced up "for US sales" all of the components that would be needed for a complete head rebuild. I will list the universal parts first then the older aaz head parts and then the newer aaz parts. The idea is to crate a a database or cross reference for aaz owners/builders so that cheaper prices can be rounded up and options weighed. I hope that this helps someone out there, namely me, if there is a cheaper route besides our mutual friend, Prothe then I'm all ears. Total for the two heads would be 900 bones! :o That includes everything but the valves, and the valve seats, springs, and retainers, as well as the keepers. All of these are priced each unless otherwise indicated. I ordered quantities appropriate for a rebuild, except for the precups, because I only needed four of them, plus freight, which was 28.99 for everything, came out to 900.78. That is more expensive than buying one of the heads listed on another website, so I'm sure that there is another location that the parts can be gotten from, just don't know where. Realistically, however, it is more expensive because I am buying for two heads, so $450.00, plus the $300.00 roughly that I spent on each, will put me right at what the other retailers want for their heads. Call me a cheapo all you want, but my search is not over. If you must have it, however, here is all of the reference data you will need. need more p/n's? go to the Altrom website and look it up, then go to a Napa store, or call, my guy was nice enough to print me out a nice sheet.
028109243E
Tensioner $54.31
12/94-1998
068109243F
Tensioner $24.95
1993-12/94
034109309
Lifter $12.74
1993-05/96; 8 Valve
050109309H
Lifter $18.74
5/96-1998; 8 Valve
028103391M
Pre Chamber $18.09
Deflector
028109127J
Timing Cover $99.07
Lower
056103419A
Valve Guide $2.85
1993-1/96; 8mm
037103419B
Valve Guide $5.26
1/96-1998; 7mm
028198012B
Head Gskt Set $53.93
1993-1/96; w/o Head gsk.
028198012E
Head Gskt Set $79.02
1/96-1998; w/o head gsk.
Not taking sides here, but, I don't know about anyone else, but all of the stuff that GB has sold me, has been quite useful, and well priced.
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I just love this forum.
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I just love this forum.
me too, i just dont care for forum users who thinks their s#!t dont stink...
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I just love this forum.
me too, i just dont care for forum users who thinks their s#!t dont stink...
I can melt porcelaine with mine LOL, and yes I love this forum too. A lot of good guys, who help each other out.
NintendoKD,
I can get metric double flares easily for around 50 bucks US for a good set. I was told to talk to the Snap On rep for what you are looking for. They can get them, but they aren't cheap, but at least you can get them and they have a good warranty.
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just what are we talking about here? metric double flares? oh, the brake lines
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http://www.aluminumheads.com/ (http://www.aluminumheads.com/)
For more info call: 503-230-0852,
Or toll free: 1-800-978-HEAD (4323)
Talk to Wayne or Chuck
Pretty cheap prices, I'll have to check out their service.
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...thats a bit of a long ways off for most people. theres lik3 4-5 people on this forum who are actually local to these guys...
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Heck, they're local enough for me!! And their price is about the same as Prothe!
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I'll have to call, don't know if they will do AAZ's wanna find out though, I'll tell em there is some money in it for em' ;)