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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Smokey Eddy on November 15, 2009, 10:51:39 pm

Title: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 15, 2009, 10:51:39 pm: I was wondering if i could see some running videos of people with their 1.6/1.9
And how advanced they have their pump set?
I just changed the rings and im thinking of timing it an entire tooth advanced to start with and then push the pump towards the head once it's started till it runs right.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on November 16, 2009, 07:44:56 am: a whole tooth of advance is ALOT. a tooth forward with the pump as retarded as it can get, it will still be alot more advanced than your pump on the right tooth and advanced all the way. it might be too much advance. when you get the rattle when you let off to shift, then you went to far.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: myke_w on November 16, 2009, 08:02:07 am: I'm surprised to see this question being asked.

Is there not a consensus on how much timing the 1.6 Bottom / 1.9 Top needs to run well?

I figured enough people have done this that there must be some data here to support running timing in at least a certain range.. no?
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on November 16, 2009, 08:19:15 am: seems like everyone has a different range. i remember a couple people building different 1.6/9 engines and they didnt have problems with advancement.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: myke_w on November 16, 2009, 08:28:41 am: huh - mine worked ok with about 1.15mm of advance, It wouldn't start well cold or idle well but I think that was mostly because I had a 3 notch metal HG on a motor that could have used a 1 notch.

I was trying to drop compression, but that created other issues :( I would have guessed that running the same timing on a motor with the appropriate head gasket would have done much better. Also - I was running stock 1.6 TD nozzles in 1.6 injectors, I've gathered from folks that running the two stage 1.9 injectors might improve things a bit (reduce the marbly noises).
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: saurkraut on November 16, 2009, 09:50:15 am: I'm at 1.19, but I have my injector break pressure set to 170 bar to overcome the possibility of secondary injection at high boost. At 1.10 I was getting high EGT and water jacket temperatures, so I bumped to 1.19, and promptly pushed the head gasket out.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 17, 2009, 01:50:00 am: Quote from: myke_w on November 16, 2009, 08:02:07 am
I'm surprised to see this question being asked.

Is there not a consensus on how much timing the 1.6 Bottom / 1.9 Top needs to run well?

I figured enough people have done this that there must be some data here to support running timing in at least a certain range.. no?

I know everyone runs different amount of advance and i was wondering what each their own sounded like.
There was a thread a while back about someone trying to get rid of the deafening rattle. Would you two agree that our half breed is exceptionally noisy?
EDIT: plus saurkraut, didn't see you there :P
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Powered by Spearco on November 19, 2009, 08:37:55 pm: Heres a short video of gauges when boosting.
Does any one elses run boost like this? The gauge is a dual boost and vacume. Boost on the right starts at 5, 10, 15, the red is 20.
I gotta get a higher gauge.
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:o
(http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/?action=view&current=CLIP1092.flv)
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 19, 2009, 08:41:04 pm: LOLZ! i love the gauge on the left!
If boost is on the right what is on the left?
The right gauge looks like EGT and the left gauge looks like boost?
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: catlin_cava on November 19, 2009, 08:42:58 pm: does your intake suck up little kids and small animals?
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 19, 2009, 08:44:01 pm: So what's that? 30 psi?
what turbo are you running?
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Powered by Spearco on November 19, 2009, 08:49:26 pm: Boost on the left and EGT on right. The far left gauge seen at end of vid. is oil temp. Turbo is K24 and pump is an uber pump from Giles.
The turbo sees that boost level for only a second, and that was only second gear.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 19, 2009, 08:51:11 pm: my fueling cuts off at about 22-25psi from my T3 :(
Which seems really reallly low to me...
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Powered by Spearco on November 19, 2009, 08:57:03 pm: I also ran that engine with a stock rebuilt TD pump and still saw way past the 15 psi on my gauge. I always get a grin when I look down and see it. Really need to get gauge that reads what I'm pushing.
I screwed the wastgate as close to closed as posable.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Smokey Eddy on November 19, 2009, 09:11:20 pm: Hmmm. I removed my waste gate...
My boost pressures dropped a lot when i got rid of some restrictions i had on my intake and used slightly larger piping.
I'm rather disappointed with my boost numbers but i guess i'll see what happens with a big IC
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Powered by Spearco on November 19, 2009, 09:14:58 pm: I found a vid. from this summer of the same setup minus the pump.
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/?action=view&current=CLIP0899.flv (http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/?action=view&current=CLIP0899.flv)
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on November 20, 2009, 08:21:26 am: Quote from: Powered by Spearco on November 19, 2009, 08:57:03 pm
I also ran that engine with a stock rebuilt TD pump and still saw way past the 15 psi on my gauge. I always get a grin when I look down and see it. Really need to get gauge that reads what I'm pushing.
I screwed the wastgate as close to closed as posable.

so they dont explode if you push over 25 psi with a K24? i got a good K24 sitting in my audi, spools to 25 psi on that motor and its extremely worn out.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: Powered by Spearco on November 30, 2009, 09:05:21 pm: I'm not able to post a sound file, but you can hear the noise that I'm having. I'll try later.
I do have to admit, the boost level that was on the video was higher than thought. I updated my gauge to a 40psi gauge from Banks, and I peg it out at about 44psi. No signs of head gasket leakage. Still no intercooler.
Title: Re: Post your vid of your 1.6/1.9
Post by: zagarus on November 30, 2009, 11:30:00 pm: me old diesel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzm-j4k9tNI