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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: truckinwagen on October 22, 2009, 02:49:58 pm

Title: hot tank after honing?
Post by: truckinwagen on October 22, 2009, 02:49:58 pm
I am about to hone the block for a re-ring, and am wondering if I will need to have the block hot tanked.

I know that it is a good idea after machining to hot tank a block to get rid of any shavings, but does honing really count?

I am tempted to get it tanked just to get rid of the grime on the outside of the block, but it costs $80 so if it is not necessary I don't really want to.

does honing require a hot tank wash?


-Owen
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: gldgti on October 22, 2009, 04:07:54 pm
traditionally no. a good clean with rags and kerosene is considered OK.

if i had hte option, i'd probably do it if it wasnt a hassle - then you can paint the block and make it all nice :-)
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Syncroincity on October 22, 2009, 05:19:39 pm
I just did mine  a few months ago, the majority of the stuff simply sticks to the honing stones, just keep everything well wetted. I used a wire wheel with blue shop towels around it to clean up the bores afterwards.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: truckinwagen on October 22, 2009, 05:46:40 pm
good to hear, I probably wont to a hot tank then as I want to keep costs down, and that makes $80 I can spend somewhere else.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: rabbitman on October 22, 2009, 06:16:04 pm
Yeah, hot soapy water and a rag is fine, just be sure to oil it right after.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: macka on October 23, 2009, 07:16:50 am
I had the bottom end off, so I cleaned the outside of the block first with foamy engine brite and wire brushes, then honed it. After I honed it, I flipped the block over and used a few cans of brake cleaner and a dollar store dish brush and rags to clean up the bore. I used an old white T shirt to check and see if the bores were clean, as well as the mating surfaces. I think I was out a total of 25 bucks for a nice shiny block.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on October 23, 2009, 08:23:51 am
I had the bottom end off, so I cleaned the outside of the block first with foamy engine brite and wire brushes, then honed it. After I honed it, I flipped the block over and used a few cans of brake cleaner and a dollar store dish brush and rags to clean up the bore. I used an old white T shirt to check and see if the bores were clean, as well as the mating surfaces. I think I was out a total of 25 bucks for a nice shiny block.

at most...


i used my bath tub once. filled it completely up with as hot of water as i could. then let the block sit in the water and get real good and hot. then cleaned it real good and took it out. dried in a matter of minutes.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: blackdogvan on October 23, 2009, 09:09:01 am
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i used my bath tub once.

Tell me you were single when you did that! If my lady came home & a nasty old diesel block was in her tub... i think thermonuclear would be a proper description!!

As for the block, go buy a 6 pack & go find someone who likes beer & has a hotsy steam pressure washer, that'll clean it out real nice! I can't imagine they are rare up there.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Jay on October 23, 2009, 09:44:40 am
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i used my bath tub once.

Tell me you were single when you did that! If my lady came home & a nasty old diesel block was in her tub... i think thermonuclear would be a proper description!!


+1  :o  It is a good idea though  ;D  Just means I'd be sleeping outside under the apple tree for a few months.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: macka on October 23, 2009, 06:38:05 pm
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i used my bath tub once.

Tell me you were single when you did that! If my lady came home & a nasty old diesel block was in her tub... i think thermonuclear would be a proper description!!

As for the block, go buy a 6 pack & go find someone who likes beer & has a hotsy steam pressure washer, that'll clean it out real nice! I can't imagine they are rare up there.

LMAO my wife would pull my arms off and beat me with the moist ends
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: maxfax on October 23, 2009, 09:14:13 pm
I prefer the dishwasher with some of that Purple Power degreaser stuff..  Works well, and no spots!  ;D
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on October 24, 2009, 07:36:21 am
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i used my bath tub once.

Tell me you were single when you did that! If my lady came home & a nasty old diesel block was in her tub... i think thermonuclear would be a proper description!!

As for the block, go buy a 6 pack & go find someone who likes beer & has a hotsy steam pressure washer, that'll clean it out real nice! I can't imagine they are rare up there.

see, you guys all have wives to deal with. or girlfriends. they are a pain in the ass. females annoy the crap out of me.  >:(
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: monomer on October 24, 2009, 02:26:04 pm
Water plus TIDE laundry detergent



TIDE is high in phosphates and clean nicely. It's a nice little trick I learned from my shop's tolken mopar guy.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: burn_your_money on October 24, 2009, 02:58:15 pm
What kind of tide? Liquid, powder?
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: macka on October 24, 2009, 03:00:48 pm
What kind of tide? Liquid, powder?

Powder, you mix it into a paste and brush it in. I completely forgot about this old school trick. It cleans hands awesomely after a day in the shop. There is one catch though, you know where all your cuts and scratches are.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Henchman on October 24, 2009, 03:11:19 pm
I cleaned the intake off my old SHO (big arrangement for those who don't know) but we lived in an apartment at the time and I did not have access to a pressure washer, altho it just occured to me know, 10 years later that I could have taken the intake to the self car wash.

Next time,

Ian
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: sdwarf36 on October 25, 2009, 08:30:47 am
I've worked for 20++ years as an automotive machinist-currently building mainly hi dollar vintage race motors. what I do is use acatone or paint thinner and clean paper towels. I wet the towel-wipe in a circular (following crosshatch) pattern. do this a couple of times untill you can take a fresh towel and see nothing  on it. I have used the hot water + dishsoap  method (works fine-just make sure you wipe it down with wd 40 after) or just used wd 40 + keep wiping till a clean one show no residue( might take 3 or 4 times).
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: monomer on October 25, 2009, 09:10:36 pm
What kind of tide? Liquid, powder?

Powder, you mix it into a paste and brush it in. I completely forgot about this old school trick. It cleans hands awesomely after a day in the shop. There is one catch though, you know where all your cuts and scratches are.

Yup.



I knew the machineshop I dropped the block at to get machined was ok - I saw a box of tide sitting on the windowsill when I walked in.
Title: Re: hot tank after honing?
Post by: Rabbit on Roids on October 27, 2009, 08:28:35 am
Water plus TIDE laundry detergent



TIDE is high in phosphates and clean nicely. It's a nice little trick I learned from my shop's tolken mopar guy.

use that in your radiator too when you blow a head gasket. the granules kinda scour the radiator and clean it spotless too!