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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: SolarSteve on June 30, 2009, 02:06:35 pm
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My Jetta came with A/C and since I bought it (and the previous woner) it never worked. So I yanked all the A/C components out that I could easily get at. It runs A LOT cooler after pulling the condenser and blowing air throught the radiator.
Anyway, I had to keep the compressor installed to turn the alternator. It one more thing under the hood that I am tired of screwing with, so is there anyway to extend the pulley shaft on the alt and idler so that I can run 1 belt from the crank, H2O pump, alt . Or is there some other way of routing the belts so that I can get rid of the compressor.
Thanks
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Get an alternator, bracket and pulleys from a non-a/c car. I suppose you could fab a bracket yourself if your good with that sort of thing but it'll be easier to find the parts from a car without factory a/c.
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Get an alternator, bracket and pulleys from a non-a/c car.
Finding that is a lot easier said than done. I have been searching on and off for almost 2 years and have come up short this whole time.
Thanks
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I'd give Parts Place a call, they used to have all that kind of stuff but I heard it changed hands in the family and it's not what it used to be. I called them yesterday and they don't even have a door for a Rabbit 2 door but they do salvage as many parts as possible though.
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The mk2 bracket is the same. All you need is the adjustment arm from a non-a/c car.
That's right, and an alternator from a non AC car
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I'm just going through this myself... I bought my car with a 1.6TD already swapped in to it from an AC car, so there's a compressor hanging off the front even though the car has no AC. Some time over the past month or two the bottom bolt on the AC mounting bracket came undone which in turn resulted in one of the mounting ears cracking off the AC compressor. I'm not about to buy a new compressor for a car that doesn't have AC, so...
I ended up ordering the bracket and adjusting bolts from the dealership - just over $60CDN including taxes, that was for the bracket itself, the adjusting bolt with its toothed nut and the bottom bolt that holds the bracket on.
Still hunting for a non-AC alternator or at least the pulley though...
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Which piece is the adjustment arm? Does it replace the large bracked that holds the idler?
Vanbcguy: A long time ago I cracked one of the ears on my A/C compressor. I just rotated it 1/4 and used the next ear. There are 4 of them so I can break 1 more before I am in a jam!
Anyone have a adjustment arm bracket they want to sell?
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I'm surprised this is so hard to find. Do you have any kind of you-pull-it junkyard around? I thought the alternator mounts exactly the same for any mk2: gas, diesel, Golf, Jetta, Cabriolet, etc. with the only difference being a/c or not. Am I wrong about that? I see non a/c Golfs (I own one) and Cabriolets all the time, Jettas not so much.
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A lot of the junk yards around here don't let you wander around the yards like they used to. And then if they do, most times the cars are stacked 4 or 5 high making things a bit hairy. Just in case this wasn't bad enough, there are copperhead snakes up here that just love junked cars!
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How about this option?
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3494611
A bit more dough but looks like a nice setup.
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I'm surprised this is so hard to find. Do you have any kind of you-pull-it junkyard around? I thought the alternator mounts exactly the same for any mk2: gas, diesel, Golf, Jetta, Cabriolet, etc. with the only difference being a/c or not. Am I wrong about that? I see non a/c Golfs (I own one) and Cabriolets all the time, Jettas not so much.
No, the a/c alternator has differently positioned mounting points.
To the OP, you may want to check "The Samba" for non-a/c alternators.
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Which piece is the adjustment arm? Does it replace the large bracked that holds the idler?
Yep, the whole idler etc all goes away with the non-AC bracket. That's actually why I wanted to go that route - much simpler design, one less belt, no more idler, you name it.
Vanbcguy: A long time ago I cracked one of the ears on my A/C compressor. I just rotated it 1/4 and used the next ear. There are 4 of them so I can break 1 more before I am in a jam!
Good to know!
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Try Morgan's Auto Parts in New Castle, DE. They have a lot of used stuff and they know what you're talking about. 800.408.6557
www.morganvwparts.com
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Which piece is the adjustment arm? Does it replace the large bracked that holds the idler?
Yep, the whole idler etc all goes away with the non-AC bracket. That's actually why I wanted to go that route - much simpler design, one less belt, no more idler, you name it.
Vanbcguy: A long time ago I cracked one of the ears on my A/C compressor. I just rotated it 1/4 and used the next ear. There are 4 of them so I can break 1 more before I am in a jam!
Got pics of the parts necessary? and a finished example?
Good to know!
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Which piece is the adjustment arm? Does it replace the large bracked that holds the idler?
Yep, the whole idler etc all goes away with the non-AC bracket. That's actually why I wanted to go that route - much simpler design, one less belt, no more idler, you name it.
Vanbcguy: A long time ago I cracked one of the ears on my A/C compressor. I just rotated it 1/4 and used the next ear. There are 4 of them so I can break 1 more before I am in a jam!
Got pics of the parts necessary? and a finished example?
Good to know!
I don't have a picture right now and if I did I am still messing up posting pictures (see my thread on the inside of a WVO burning IDI), but there isn't anything to it. There are 4 ears equally spaced around the compressor. I think you use 2 of the ears to install it. If 1 ear breaks, unbolt the compressor, rotate it 1/4 turn and reinstall using a fresh ear and the broken one is in a position that is not used.
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No, the a/c alternator has differently positioned mounting points.
That's what I meant, the a/c alternator has a different mounting arrangement from the non a/c one. But I thought there were not differences among mk2 models and a 1.8 gas would have the same alternator setup as a 1.6 diesel with the only variable being a/c or no a/c. Why I brought this up is because I think mk2 models, gas and diesel, aren't that hard to find without a/c.
To SolarSteve, you are thinking of the wrong kind of junkyard. I'm talking about places where their business model is for the general public to bring their own tools, remove parts they want from the cars, then purchase at the exit. Usually these places charge admission and have the cars laid out on stands so it's safe and easy to get to them, not stacked 4 high. Some of the places around LA even have concrete paving so you don't have to lay in mud under a car. Maybe this is more popular in the West but here are some in PA (http://www.wegotused.com/) from a quick google search. Anyway, it's a pity if you turn a wrench and have never been to one of these places. I love them. I've bought A LOT of stuff from the local "pick & pocket" over the years, just this weekend I got a good rocker panel for a FIAT (yes FIAT) for $10.
I'll let you know if I see what your looking for.
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bajacalal
Thanks for the link, I need to get out to Harry's, but its would take a whole day to get there, rumage around and get back. I may use a day to do that, but just not right now.
I was in Louisiana for 4 years and they had a place called Parts-U-Pick It and it was set up just like you mentioned. You could find just about anything you wanted, but the common stuff after about 15 years, they would get rid of.
Anyway, thanks for the link and for keeping an eye out for me!