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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: catlin_cava on May 07, 2009, 04:26:08 pm
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Does a 1.9 AAZ weight more then 750lbs??? I'm looking at getting an stand for it and the 750 one at princess auto is only 49.99? will it work
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It's well under 750. I can lift the whole motor myself (not high, and not for long mind you)
Make sure that the motor stand has a nice rotating stand, and a good place to put a big bucket under it.
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perfect...Princess Auto is the best
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perfect...Princess Auto is the best
amen.
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7 days till i get to go :D
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I actually have one of the PA 750lb engine stand and I don't like it much. The one with only one wheel at the front is way too tippy. I have a VW engine block on it right now and it tries to tip when you roll the engine over. They make a 1000 lb unit with two front wheels which is much better and not much more expensive. If you have to spend money on tools make sure they are nice to work with not a pain. Cheers Dan
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i second that. the ones with one caster on the front are a waste of time.. i dunno how many times ive had to catch a falling engine.. and most of the time i end up messing up my back. i cut the single caster off mine and welded a 24" chunk of steel square stock and put wheels on each end.
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I think I'll get the 750lb one, main reason its cheap...and like you did kevin and modify it, nothing some square tubing can't fix
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one cut, a little grinder work, a couple holes drilled, and one weld.
VOILA!
instant beefy engine stand.
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lol yup and its that easy
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I just weighed an AAZ with a big fish scale and an engine crane...
400 lbs almost exactly.
Jerry
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I just weighed an AAZ with a big fish scale and an engine crane...
400 lbs almost exactly.
Jerry
:o I don't know what's crazier, that it weighed 400 lbs, or that you have a fish scale that goes up to 400 lbs!
What all was attached to the motor? Was oil and coolant in it?
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:o 400 lbs? what all did it have on it? a transmission and everything? because i can pick up a runable 1.6 TD engine that has everything on it and oil in the pan. this engine didnt have a trans tho. but i packed that thing around a few times no problem. then one day i went to pack my 22R out of my basement, and i about *** a buick when i picked that thing up. its supposed to weigh 315 lbs. but i know that thing had at least 100 lbs on my diesel, and i knew it that day, i was hunched over for a couple days after that one. i just have a really hard time believing that an AAZ, or any VW diesel weighs 100 pounds less than a small block chevy. ???
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All the accesories, IP, hoses, oil in the sump, motor mounts, flywheel, etc. etc... just like it came out of the car. "Wet weight"
No trans ;)
The scale actually only read up to 300 lbs, but the pointer kept going, & I marked where it pointed when the motor left the ground. The scale was 50lbs for every 3/4", and the motor lifted at 300 + 1.5", or 6" total deflection. Might be a margin of error going off scale, but it's close enough.
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I can lift the whole motor myself (not high, and not for long mind you)
I just weighed an AAZ with a big fish scale and an engine crane...
400 lbs almost exactly.
Tyler... you been pumping Iron or what!?!?! Holy Hell. lmao
Me (19) and a friend (51) lifted a complete "wet weight" n/a out of a golf and up on to a trailer by hand.... i thought he was going to have a stroke... I pulled a muscle something fierce. there is nooowayy it was under 500.. however just the engine is probably a lot lighter.. the whole shebang had to be AT LEAST 600lbs.
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still, i dont know how one of these things can weigh more than a 22r. my back tells me a 22r weighs more, and a 1.5/1.6/1.9 weighs at LEAST 50 pounds less. ive weighed a 22r on a good scale that was calibrated correctly. 315 lbs. and how can an 8 valve gas engine weigh somewhere around 200 lbs? theres just no possible way that a diesel weighs twice as much as a 1.8 gasser.
and i can pick up a 1.6 TD and pack it around. not for miles or anything, but i can. and considering a small block chev fully built ready to go is 522 lbs (corvette 327 with headers and an aluminum intake) i know there is no way on gods green earth that i could pick up a whole small block. let alone move it around on the floor very easy...
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I think comparing the weights of both engines crank, pistions, and rods will yield a lot of weight in favour of the diesel.
How much does an O2O weigh?? 100-150? that still puts my "back-scale" at around 400 for a 1.6 ;D
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I think comparing the weights of both engines crank, pistions, and rods will yield a lot of weight in favour of the diesel.
How much does an O2O weigh?? 100-150? that still puts my "back-scale" at around 400 for a 1.6 ;D
an 020 weighs in at around 75 lbs... 4 speeds are about 60.
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so to me a 1.6 weighs around 450-460 EASY... it was supppppppper heavy for two big guys to lift...
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im 6'6" 210 lbs... not built by any means. how come i can pick up one of these bastards by myself? i know i cant lift almost 500 lbs. theres no way these things weigh that much.
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You my friend must be what your name suggests... on ROIDS!!! ;D ;D ;D
I could never even think about lifting one by myself... im 6'2" and 255.. im definitely not weak.
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Dang you guys are big. 6'2" and 235, here. I know the I5 engines are heavy mothers, having picked one up to get it onto the engine stand at 4AM. And I have strung a short logging chain between the hooks on a 1.6 to carry it like luggage from the car to the checkout at a junkyard. Two handed heaving carry, about 75 metres (gonna change it up on you folks, ha! :P) or so.
I weighed one wet once, when I was pursuing the possibility of putting it in the back of a Squareback, and as I remember if you discounted the weight of coolant and shed the AC components, you were within 60 pounds of the weight of a fully decked and lubed T3 pancake.
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see, now that sounds more like it, 60 pounds off of a T3 pancake motor... i can believe that one. cause i can pick up a VW air cooled engine no problem....
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I weighted my aaz less flywheel and alt and it was 280lbs on my fish scale (I thought every body had a 300lb fish scale must be just us Canadian guys).
Mark.
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see, now that i can come closer to believeing. that doesnt sound like an off the wall weight. you canadian guys dont have a different pound do you? its still 16 ounces right? lol...
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According to the appendix of "A Diesel for a Subcompact Cars" (p.46) the 1.5 weighs 120kg, or around 265lbs. I would imagine this number included accessories for regular application..
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well if the engine weighs 250 and an 020 weighs 75.. that's only 325.... full package.. plus oil, coolant, alternator, Everything fresh fro ma car.. i would say maybe 350-375 as to what i was lifting.. I can understand now.. 250 i could lift myself.. 375 no wayyy lol
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325 sounds like an accurate real world weight. because a VR6 weighs in at around 400 doesnt it?