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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 04:30:26 pm

Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 04:30:26 pm
ha ha, I've noticed in the past that in order to get people to look at your *** you've gotta have good advertisement. like seriously right? look at all the posts that have like 5034 views! all have really attractive names..

So i did try to search this, but what i am looking for was hard to type in to the search.

I want to know if it is possible to do the whole 1.9 head on a 1.6 N/a.. would this be a good upgrade for it? if i were to do that, is there an oil passage that needs to be blocked in the head? Right now this is way out of my price range.. and piossibly skill range as well.. lol :P

just looking mainly for ideas and possibilities. lol

so waht do you guys got?
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: truckinwagen on February 11, 2009, 04:45:31 pm
the 1.9 head should bolt up to the 1.6 block just fine, there is only need to block the oil return if you have a mechanical lifter block.

it would be an upgrade because the 1.9 head flows much better than the 1.6, but it will also lower compression a bit due to the larger prechambers making cold starts a little harder
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: Dirtrag2 on February 11, 2009, 04:46:07 pm
try to search out "frankenmotor" you'll get all the answers you desire.
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 05:50:35 pm
oh i guess i forgot to add that IF i were to do this, i would also invest in a VNT. lol
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: jtanguay on February 11, 2009, 06:16:13 pm
Quote from: "libbybapa"
I wouldn't do it on a non-turbo motor.  I doubt you'd find it flowed enough better with zero boost to make any positive difference.  

Andrew


i remember looking at a cutaway of both the 1.6 & 1.9 cylinder heads, and the 1.9 is a huge improvement.  the 1.6 could be ported to produce 'similar' results, but definitely not as good as the 1.9.

my personal belief is that for mild engine performance, it should work ok.  it might even shock everyone and perform quite well if ported & polish in conjunction with the long runner intake system, and using a large free flowing exhaust system. the piston tops could be coated with a heat reflecting material as well, which would really help.  all of the extra airflow should really wake the motor up!!!

and as always, a VNT turbo would really whip the car in the ass in terms of driveability...  the only economical way of building such a motor, IMO, would be to use a complete 1.9 prothe head.  i wonder when he will start selling the valve cover with his head?  Smokey Eddy's build really turned out quite well... i think he has set a precedent here  :lol:
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 06:39:59 pm
Quote from: "jtanguay"
Smokey Eddy's build really turned out quite well... i think he has set a precedent here  :lol:


Yeah i read his entire post and shot him some pm's. he has definetly set something.. Says the thing runs like TITS lol

I dunno if it would even be in the late future.. but it definetly sounds COOL

a ported 1.9 head, long runner gasser intake, free flowing dual outlet exhaust, and a Vnt.. that thing would be a rockin n/a! :P
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 07:12:16 pm
Quote from: "truckinwagen"
the 1.9 head should bolt up to the 1.6 block just fine, there is only need to block the oil return if you have a mechanical lifter block


So if it were a 91 n/a in question with Hydro head.. id be good, direct swap. niice
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: jtanguay on February 11, 2009, 07:30:55 pm
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"
Quote from: "truckinwagen"
the 1.9 head should bolt up to the 1.6 block just fine, there is only need to block the oil return if you have a mechanical lifter block


So if it were a 91 n/a in question with Hydro head.. id be good, direct swap. niice


yea.. there really isn't much holding you back now, man.  nudge nudge!!!   :lol:
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 11, 2009, 07:33:27 pm
Quote from: "jtanguay"
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"
Quote from: "truckinwagen"
the 1.9 head should bolt up to the 1.6 block just fine, there is only need to block the oil return if you have a mechanical lifter block


So if it were a 91 n/a in question with Hydro head.. id be good, direct swap. niice


yea.. there really isn't much holding you back now, man.  nudge nudge!!!   :lol:


SADLY there is alot.. you know what is ***ty to happen to you in life? and is even more ***ty to experience at 18?

Being laid-off. ***e it sucks.. and right in the middle of an engine swap project.. thats gonna back burner for a while sadly..  but yeah! Sounds like a good route to go for sure!
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: truckinwagen on February 11, 2009, 07:58:55 pm
I hear you there man, I work seasonally(summertime for 3 months) and I am starting to run out of money for my projects, so they will be put on the back burner until april when I get my tax return :D
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: Smokey Eddy on February 11, 2009, 08:00:00 pm
Me too budd.

I don't know why i can't get a job either. Its no where near as bad in canada as it is in the states... holy!
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: jtanguay on February 11, 2009, 08:34:02 pm
all too true unfortunately...  i'm currently jobless as well, but i have a few aces up my sleeve in terms of financing my future projects  8)

if it turns out well enough, i may be able to assist my fellow dubbers  :wink:
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: burn_your_money on February 12, 2009, 04:48:16 am
I have an AAZ head you can have for free. It's complete. May or may not have a valve cover, I forget.

It's not in the best of shape, but I think it is still usable.

Come get it when you get those glowplugs.
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 12, 2009, 08:50:42 am
duuuude, your the best! :P

sadly, i haven't a clue when that will be. hopefully i can find another at least ***ty paying job soon so i can keep driving my car and buying some ***...

I HaTe ReCesSionS~!
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: addautomotive on February 12, 2009, 11:59:28 am
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"


... you know what is ***ty to happen to you in life? and is even more ***ty to experience at 18?

Being laid-off...


Ha, try 33 with your first-born on the way in 8 weeks.
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 12, 2009, 12:01:12 pm
Quote from: "addautomotive"
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"


... you know what is ***ty to happen to you in life? and is even more ***ty to experience at 18?

Being laid-off...


Ha, try 33 with your first-born on the way in 8 weeks.


oh man, i feel you. that's definitely alot worse in my case.. I mean I still live with my mom, sooo really all that is being taken away is the extravagance.. whereas for you.. it's everything :( Life in this day and age sucks.. lol
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: arb on February 12, 2009, 12:37:27 pm
Yeah man, life is dynamic..

47 now, but...
2005 Finished divorced from money grubber (she makes 50% more than I do now, but the Friend of the Court is slow to make her pay me)
2005 Keep paying for house that's upside down $68K - no buyers in sight.
2005 - end - Paid thousands to INS to bring Ukrainian Psychologist here.
2006 Got married to said Alien.
2006 Found IDI engine and Trans - only need project.
2006 Lost IT job at Chrysler
2006 Chase returned my mortgage payment and foreclosed.
2007 Moved to "Shiiit whole" rental house
2007 Bankruptcy while on unemployment with new wife and son 50% of time.
2007 Got IT job at same $$
2007 Bought IDI engine - trans
2007 New job - got lay-off
2007 Ex-wife takes me to court trying to get $10,000 for a truck that was "to be paid with net proceeds from sale of house"
2007 Got screwed by lawyer who took $1300 but didn't go to court.
2008 moved to nice rental house w/ option to buy
2008 Got IT job at Ford, at 50% former income
2008 Started DIESEL project
2008 Ex-wife took me back to court, same claim. Got good lawyer.
2009 Court in 2 weeks to decide. Still waiting for FOC to change support.
2009 survived 2 big cuts at Ford

Live is a journey, don't get down because there are ups and downs...
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 12, 2009, 08:28:58 pm
now this is gonna sound ouright mean and wrong. But your guys greater mis-fortune than my own makes me feel a bit better in a way.. but down right bummed for you guys. :(

Arb, you have had a lot of mishaps in such a short time, i feel for you Brethren. :)

Yes you are a wise man, you should not let the us and downs of life get you down. I wil try not to, I just wish i didn't anticipate a next pay cheque :( and spend all my monies.. stupid idea. lol
Title: This is just a TEST, Do not be ALARMED.
Post by: arb on February 13, 2009, 04:59:28 am
Quote from: "8v-of-fury"
now this is gonna sound ouright mean and wrong. But your guys greater mis-fortune than my own makes me feel a bit better in a way.. but down right bummed for you guys. :(

Arb, you have had a lot of mishaps in such a short time, i feel for you Brethren. :)

Yes you are a wise man, you should not let the us and downs of life get you down. I wil try not to, I just wish i didn't anticipate a next pay cheque :( and spend all my monies.. stupid idea. lol


Yeah, its been interesting... to be optomistic, the one thing that stands out very boldly to me - My new beautiful wife (10 years younger as is typical in Ukraine) had a very good life there as a psychologist - new computer, good pay for there, owned her condo, drivers license (very unusual there for anyone), internet, cell, cable, etc, etc.....  so she comes here and the shiiit starts hitting the fan for me. She's still with me !!!  Proves she did not come here for a green card !! :-)