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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: monomer on August 23, 2008, 10:30:10 am

Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: monomer on August 23, 2008, 10:30:10 am
What should I do for a clutch? The stock clutch is beefy, but we're talkin a lot of torque here.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: gigaz2 on August 23, 2008, 11:40:38 am
g60 flywheel and vr6 clutch, can't remember if you have to swap gearbox as well, but the stock one might not take it.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: RabbitJockey on August 23, 2008, 11:53:02 am
u would need an 02a or 02j to run that clutch
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: 53 willys on August 23, 2008, 11:56:35 am
PM "zukgod1"..he has a link to a company that makes beefed up custom clutches...... 8)
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: stewardc on August 23, 2008, 01:48:04 pm
I used an ACT assembly on mine, but it's an AAZ and uses a bigger flywheel.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on August 23, 2008, 09:34:38 pm
If your running a 020 trans. stock. Try a 200mm solid hub Bug clutch disk and a 210mm 16v presure plate and a 210mm flywheel. No need to buy a 02A or 02J trans, unless you've got the money? My .02 cents.
Josh
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: monomer on August 23, 2008, 10:36:54 pm
Quote from: "Powered by Spearco"
If your running a 020 trans. stock. Try a 200mm solid hub Bug clutch disk and a 210mm 16v presure plate and a 210mm flywheel. No need to buy a 02A or 02J trans, unless you've got the money? My .02 cents.
Josh


any P/N handy?

will this hold?
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on August 23, 2008, 10:49:11 pm
I'll get a PN tomarrow for the disk. As far as holding, I know a few racers with Rabbits and a rally racer that are useing it and no complaints as of yet.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: vanagonturbo on August 23, 2008, 11:15:52 pm
In a gasser application, the 020 trans is ok up to 200hp (borderline). The torque numbers are usually close to the hp numbers on an NA gasser. If you are talking about TD running 200hp, you need to upgrade the trans to an 02a or 02j. 02m would be the best!

02a/etc. would be the best. use an ACT kit for a VR6 (stage2, sprung center, built pp).

this is the tested formula for gassers running 250-300hp. Remember, gassers run close torque ratings to hp. Diesel is another story.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: monomer on August 23, 2008, 11:27:43 pm
Quote from: "vanagonturbo"
In a gasser application, the 020 trans is ok up to 200hp (borderline). The torque numbers are usually close to the hp numbers on an NA gasser. If you are talking about TD running 200hp, you need to upgrade the trans to an 02a or 02j. 02m would be the best!

02a/etc. would be the best. use an ACT kit for a VR6 (stage2, sprung center, built pp).

this is the tested formula for gassers running 250-300hp. Remember, gassers run close torque ratings to hp. Diesel is another story.


which cars would this come out of?
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: numbnuts on August 24, 2008, 10:31:38 am
I thought an idi running 200hp would not be making much more torque than 200 ft/lbs :?  I thought it was thje tdi's and then the pd tdis that made alot more torque. If not show me some graphs please :wink:  :lol:
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: BlackTieTD on August 24, 2008, 10:37:20 am
02a passat or corrado is usually easist. around 90-92 passats are getting dirt cheap. people will give them away....

here is power torque graph of 1.6TD (52kW mkI TDs). its in metric though and at first it looks like the power is higher....

(http://www.voiddesign.com/pic/power-torque.gif)
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on August 24, 2008, 05:38:13 pm
Ok, heres the Sachs PN for the 200mm disk.
AMTX5219M
VW PN for bug is,
311 141 031
Used with a 210mm clutch PP and Flywheel.
Try it, you might like it? :)
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: monomer on August 25, 2008, 01:19:45 pm
Quote from: "Powered by Spearco"
Ok, heres the Sachs PN for the 200mm disk.
AMTX5219M
VW PN for bug is,
311 141 031
Used with a 210mm clutch PP and Flywheel.
Try it, you might like it? :)


is it holding up for you? how much did it run you?
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: Powered by Spearco on August 25, 2008, 05:32:18 pm
I think my cost is around $30.00.
I do not have one in my vehicle as of yet but I know of someone who is running one in a race Rabbit (auto cross) and he says its the best combo yet.
Not 200+hp but close to 180hp.
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: boosted_diesel_84 on August 26, 2008, 03:55:38 pm
or...spend some money like i did and get a real clutch... Spec Clutches, they can get you a clutch to hold up to whatever power level you want. mine is a stage 2, just installed on my new motor. which will be in soon. their stage 3 clutch is rated at 460 Ft. Lbs of torque, so i think it can handle a lil 1.6 haha

heres a link

http://www.034motorsport.com/index.php?cPath=113_2525_2603_2605

-Jack-
Title: Clutch for a 200+ HP 1.6?
Post by: monomer on August 28, 2008, 01:19:38 pm
Quote from: "boosted_diesel_84"
or...spend some money like i did and get a real clutch... Spec Clutches, they can get you a clutch to hold up to whatever power level you want. mine is a stage 2, just installed on my new motor. which will be in soon. their stage 3 clutch is rated at 460 Ft. Lbs of torque, so i think it can handle a lil 1.6 haha

heres a link

http://www.034motorsport.com/index.php?cPath=113_2525_2603_2605

-Jack-


stage 3 ordered