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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: stunofish on April 25, 2008, 02:44:51 am
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I am looking for a aneroid pin from a rover TD and can not find any parts numbers anywhere. can you please answer the following questions to help me track one down.
1. It is a bosch part
2. What is the part number
3. Is a new one better, or do i just go to the scrappy
Thanks
Stu
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I think you will have to get one from colliers, there are a few i think. I also want to get one for my aaz. went to a local rover breakers and they said they wouldn't split it :roll: and you would have to be pretty lucky to find 1 in the scrappy, probably Bert will be along in a bit to tell us the part number :wink:
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i know not the part number :( but there like rocking horse poo to find,many breakers wont split the pump,im trying to get one for a guy on here whos in malta 8) ive been looking but no good boys,a 2nd hand one is as good as a new one,just pop it in and drive :twisted:
Bert
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take yours out put in vice and extend the existing profile with a grinder the smooth it with sand paper :twisted:
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Gents,
I have been running a rover aneroid pin in my MK2 GTD for over a year now, the acceleration is noticeably differant, no differance in black smoke from over fueling either.
I am serving in Southern Iraq at the moment and have managed to get my hands on 3 aneroid pins, with diaphragm's attatched out of the vehicles that are scrapped. One of these pins came out of a Hybred diesel engine used in rather special Landrover !!!!
I will try and get a few photos on the site to show you the profile. Unlike normal aneroid pins that have an eccentric conical taper, this pin is cone shaped, no low or high fuel setting if you rotate the pin. I have driven one of the vehicles that this pin came out of and it shifts, not bad for 5 tonne of armoured vehicle. I am reliably told that the fuel injection pump (bosch VE) has had extensive internal modifications done to it, the cylinder head has been ported, polished and gas flowed, along with the intercooler..... before any one asks yes i do have the intercooler to match the pin, and it hopefully be retro fitted into my much loved GTD, once i get back to the UK.
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I'm not sure if you will ever find a rover part number for the pin.
I'm sure Rover (yak) same as VW (Yum) will be the same in the fact that that the injection pumps aren't really meant to be dicked about with by the general mechanics at a dealership.
I think the best way to find your pins is to find the exact model that said pin comes from and get a Bosch agent, or someone with ESItronic to trawl through and get the number.
I deal with Bosch indirectly via a local factors, basically if you get me the Bosch number or lots more info I can do nothing but ask.
I have spoken with Bosch tecnical on several occasions regarding parts for JX pumps and they are quite accomodating.
Or, go to a local Diesel specialists and see if they are willing to help out.
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Oh, and I have a pin from a Perkins Prima that came out of a Maestro Diesel van that has a scarey cone on it!
As far as I know, each pin has a number on it's base.
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The price for weigh-in of knackered cars is so high at the moment that i'm just going around the scrapyard locally and lifting every pump pin I can find! The cars are normally squashed every week so new stock is easy to pilfer!
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boys,been to the local diesel center today,they can get the pin from the rover 220TD brank new for £17.75 plus vat (vodka and tonic)
There avaliable no problem,bosch have them in stock.
Bert
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Bert can you get me one please? Or can i get one myself or is it a trade place?
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Did you manage to get a part number out of them?
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i will post the part number when i pick the pin up for dongti,im ordering one in a bit so will let you know :wink: the part number was on the screen,he showed me the exploded view of the rover 220 pump and the part number but i didnt have a pen :( :wink:
Bert
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i will post the part number when i pick the pin up for dongti,im ordering one in a bit so will let you know :wink: the part number was on the screen,he showed me the exploded view of the rover 220 pump and the part number but i didnt have a pen :( :wink:
Bert
Good work fella! 8)
DD
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tidy, good work!
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part still did not turn up,neither did the 4 boxes of parts other people are waiting for either,the guy said after bank holiday now :(
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.................aparently,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the .......pin ..is coming tomorrow???????????????
will let you know.......
Bert :wink:
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Ok lads,the pin is here 8) part number is wait for it :wink:
1 463 123 531
Bert
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sshweeett :wink:
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Thanks for all the work guys. Now to find a dealer who will sell me one.
Stu
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dongti's pin come from carwoods diesel center in the midlands, phone number is 0121 552 9524 ask for ken say lee told you to ring :lol: ive told him there might be more required :wink: also the other branch is in coventry,phone number is 02476 449533
Bert
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Thanks Bert, I have ordered the pin. Do I need a new spring or can I use the old one. Ken said that for that pin there are 4 springs to choose from, any ideas ?
Thanks
Stu
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I got 2 today, whacked one in the AAZ thats slowly going together for my Atlantic.
I can get these reasonably quickly, but being in the trade I was surprised to see how little discount there was on them, anyway, I'm going to stick a few items for sale up on my Brickwerks website, as I have found a supply for Nozzles and I'm just getting set up with Kolbenshmidt, Elring, and a few other peoples.
I just do T3 and T4 parts, but as I am dealing with these companies anyway and I see that some people struggle to get hold of certain parts I may as well stock a few, or at least offer to buy stuff in for people.
The taper is quite severe isn't it! I was surprised to see that the cone is central, and theres no adjustment on it.
I've brought them both home anyway, so I can take a few pictures.
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I just used the existing aaz spring,and yes the cone is servere enough :twisted: :wink:
Bert
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If you use the AAZ spring, you will not be taking advantage of the pin. It goes to full fuel with only 4 psi, so if you adjust fueling for no smoke with regular driving, the pin won't be able to add any more. If you have it adjusted for full throttle, I would imagine you will have smoke at lesser throttle settings and your mileage will suffer.
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to be honest i have no smoke and absolutley loads of power,i have not touched the fuel screw,nor any other pump alteration just put the pin in and drive,i boost at 11 psi flat out with a T3 and its a great fun car to drive,the acceleration is amazing 8)
Bert
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(http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/76088267dd6d750bd9247af8dc4f5eed.jpg)
I've stuck a spare on my shop.
Yes, I know about the price...
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Thanks to everyone and a great thanks to Bert.
Fitted and you can feel it. Feels like there is something under your foot now.
Thanks for all your time.
Stu
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definately gonna get 1 of these when the golf passes the mot :lol:
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I just got my Rover boost pin in today and will be installing it as well. $47.99 is not that bad. Thanks for the info and I'll let ya know how it feels, maybe even a dyno sheet to show improvments.
Thanks, Josh :D