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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Ziptar on October 04, 2007, 06:16:38 pm
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So, I see and add in craigslist for a 92 Jetta for $500.00 but, it leaks diesel the ad says. So I go check it out, it's an Eco (91 actually), I couldn't believe my luck.
It's been sitting for 5 months since the owner took it and it's leaky injection pump to the dealer and was quoted $1800.00. Left my $100 deposit with out even attempting to start it. I am going to pick it up tomorrow, I'll post pics in general when I get it home.
The guys says it runs but, the battery was dead. I stopped by tonight on the way home from work to see if I could get it to fire. I tried jumping it with my Audi but, the battery is too small, cranks to slow.
I am sure the glow plugs or relay are shot. I just need to get it on the trailer tomorrow so I'll take my big 850 CCA Battery, it used to single handedly start my 79 Chevy with an Olds 5.7L Diesel. When I couldn't get the Olds to start I used to poor a little gas on a rag and stretch it across the intake, started every time no glow plugs even.
So along with the big battery, a Mityvac to prime the fuel lines, an extra Glow plug relay, gas and a rag. what else should I bring tomorrow to get it running??
Thanks,
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Comealong.... Good Backup Plan.
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Comealong.... Good Backup Plan.
I was going to say "4 men strong and true".... just picked up a diesel MK3 that was midway thru the AAZ crank repair when the owner lost patience... 4 of us got it off the dolly and up the hill into my garage.
I decided to *not* turn it over on purpose until I can get it apart and make sure everything under the hood is ok.
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Got it home, details: http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10708
I wound up renting a U-Haul tow dolly instead of using my brothers equipment trailer, Come along rental was $24, U-Haul was $44.
Best $44 I ever spent, after fiddling with it and trying to get it started for 20 minutes or so, my brother and I pushed it onto the dolly really easily with little effort.
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HOLY MOLD BATMAN!
Seriously, not a bad looking car. With a clean-up, it should be quite nice.
Best way to get it running:
1) Remove the "OUT" banjo bolt on the right (when facing the motor) side of the injection pump. It has the fuel return line from the injectors going into it. Get a CLEAN squirt bottle (like they sell at Advance or elsewhere), fill it with CLEAN diesel fuel. Then, use the bottle to fill the injection pump.
2) Crank it over and smile.
Even with bad glow plugs, it should start (check the fuse though). It's warm enough down here in the south that it should crank up. If it doesen't then you may want to do a compression test.
Last resort: if you fill the pump and it won't start, you may try the pull-start trick.
If the pump's been leaking a long time, you'll probably have to replace all the radiator hoses, as well as the water pump seal behind the AC compressor (a real blast!).
Good luck
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Good hit for $500. Let us know when you get it running. I have a '92 Eco. Love it.
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I am going to give getting started a go this morning, thanks for the advice I'll try it. It may have been leaking a while the PO just put a new Top Hose on it right before he parked it.
Which fuse should I check?? It won't crank using the key, I have to jump the starter solenoid with a screw driver. I think the starter is going, it cranks really slow.
Yeah, the mold is awful, it's got lots of leaks for sure. Florida is great like that, any vehicle with a leak that is left closed up and sitting for more than a month turns into a petri dish on wheels. The trunk was sopping wet and full of junk, mostly mascara tubes and carburetors for small Briggs and Stratton Engines. I think one of the previous owners was a female small engine mechanic. :lol: I cleaned out the junk and carpet and tossed in in the trash. The jack kit and donut spare have never been used it looks like, the spare still had the factory tag taped to it and the jack kit had the collapse able water bag still neatly folded up on top of it.
I'll replace belts and seals when i take it out to swap it. It will probably clean up Ok but, the 89 Carat I plan to swap it into is in so much better condition body and interior wise.
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QuantumTD Thanks for the Priming Tip, Worked like a charm!!!
IT IS ALIVE!!!!!
Guy wasn't kidding about the IP leak though...
(http://ziptar.com/eco_jetta/leaky2.jpg)
(http://ziptar.com/eco_jetta/leaky3.jpg)
(http://ziptar.com/eco_jetta/leaky.jpg)
I took it out for a drive regardless... :D Outside of a ticky lifter, a bunged up shifter, and some oil leaks that need to be dealt with she is a goer!!
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And that leak is a 2 dollar o-ring away from disappearing.... nice catch !
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damn man.. diesel is very bad for the environment... that is totally going to destroy your driveway!!! glad to hear its working though!
edit: forgot you have concrete driveway... the paved portion of the road isn't though :lol:
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And that leak is a 2 dollar o-ring away from disappearing.... nice catch !
Teach me oh wise one!! I'd love to keep the Eco IP and just add a 1.6L LDA.
Oh wait, I see it now...
http://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5311
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And that leak is a 2 dollar o-ring away from disappearing.... nice catch !
Teach me oh wise one!! I'd love to keep the Eco IP and just add a 1.6L LDA.
Oh wait, I see it now...
http://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5311
Around here people that dig a bit first are our *favorite* and get a star next to their name !!! :lol:
Vince
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Damn that's bad :D I hope you plan on replacing your cooloant hoses soon, diesel has a tendency to eat rubber ;)
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Around here people that dig a bit first are our *favorite* and get a star next to their name !!! :lol:
Vince[/quote]
where's my star? i wanna star! Vince
:roll: Duane
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QuantumTD Thanks for the Priming Tip, Worked like a charm!!!
GRUESOME!!!
Wow. That does take the cake the the gooooooiest running diesel I've ever seen. Glad to hear you got it started.
BUT the good news is that you know the pump is good. No need to have it completely rebuilt. The guy on ebay (red--rider) who reseals these pumps is the best. He's got my 5th Injection pump right now (also for an ECOdiesel) and is resealing it for a mere $115! The last 4 he fixed didn't leak a drop after they came back.
With a leak that bad, you really need to replace all of the lower radiator hoses, as they are sure to start splitting and leaking: trust me, I've seen it happen many times. Most hoses are cheap as hell (about $5-9 each). While you've got the IP off, you should also replace the O-ring seal for the waterpump-engine block. You'll have to pull the AC compressor to do it, but now's the perfect time while you've got the IP off. The diesel softens the seals and makes them leak. You'll thank youself later for doing this cheap fix now (about $3 for the O-RIng). Also, do the timing belt (of couse since the IP has been leaking).
All in all, you're looking at about $300-500 in parts/repair to have a sweet ride that will get you 40-50 MPG with turbo boost (although a tiny K-14) to boot!
Good luck
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Yeah, it's messy alright.
I may give resealing it myself a go I have more to read first, I want to add a 1.6 LDA to it also. If not then I was thinking of using the ebay guy. It runs out nice so, I think the rest of the pump is fine.
I don't mind the small turbo. It's going to be on the interstate the most anyhow. LDA and an Intercooler should pep it up all while keeping MPG up there.
I plan on doing the timing belt, hoses, and whatever else is easy to get to while the motor is out.
In the meantime, I don't have the "Proper" tools for messing with the timing belt and IP. Is there a method that I can use to safely get the IP off and on until it's time for the engine to come out and do the timing belt and get tools?
Back when I had my 1Z Jetta I used to do my timing belt using the "Masking tape and $5.00 bicycle tool" method I learned on tdiclub.com worked well. Anything similar for the IDI?
Thanks