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#270
by
Gizmoman
on 12 Aug, 2013 08:19
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I have no clue what happened. It acts completely different now. Before it boosted but hit harder up top now it pulls from the bottom more and only gets to 800f egt so something changed. Maybe the entire time something was off on the last go around and this time when rebuilt it is as it should have been? I am hoping. Still pulls ok, but needs more fuel. I will give it that in about 500 more miles
Any chance your throttle cable is in a different position and your not reaching WOT? BTW, smart move on a gradual increase on all the new stuff. I need to remember to "de-tune" mine before I get to jiggy wit it (if I ever finish the darn thing
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#271
by
CRSMP5
on 12 Aug, 2013 09:16
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he close to wot... too much throw and not enough pedal.. to get wot it will not return to idle..
spent some time on his door latch/horn issues yesterday..
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#272
by
theman53
on 12 Aug, 2013 10:28
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#273
by
theman53
on 12 Aug, 2013 10:35
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I didn't touch any fueling settings from the first turbo rebuild to this one. The fueling stayed the same, I figure the turbo wasn't making air correctly and now it is? So now the EGT are less and I need more fuel is all I can figure.
I cranked up the boost controller to see if I can make more boost and 15 pounds is now it. I don't know why when I had the EMP gauge on it I could make 18psi and now only 15psi, but the consensus is I need more fuel.
CRS and I took a spin and I did get to WOT a couple times. It made the weird noise when I was chasing down a Civic. Thought a boost hose blew off but it didn't. As soon as it happened I let off. Similar noise it made when it undid itself last go around. This time it was fine...
CRS also said he could he me on the street above his house coming in LOL. It has a neat throaty sound. I think he liked the drive and did some good work on the door handles
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#274
by
RabbitJockey
on 12 Aug, 2013 12:40
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yeah i actually had to stretch my arm out to get it haha. do you 2 think it may still need a bov? or didn't it make the noise when you were shifting?
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#275
by
theman53
on 12 Aug, 2013 12:43
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made the noise under full load right about to shift
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#276
by
theman53
on 25 Aug, 2013 20:54
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Dropped the wastegate to around 10psi as that is easy to hit no issues. I think that the sound I heard was the wastegate opening only at that 15psi ish level it is more violent and louder. At 10psi you can hear it modulating, and if you keep giving it the skinny pedal it will rise on up a bit. Seems like the wastegate just can't get rid of it enough to keep it down. Seems to stop creeping around 13 psi. I hope that is good enough and wonder if when I up the fuel if I should set it for 20ish psi hoping for it to creep to 25ish???
That leads me to the next question, with this turbo and head combo what should be the max psi I can run? I don't want to over spin the turbo as the V.E. is probably pretty good compared to a stock head. If the machinist would ever send me the flow chart I could get an idea but just as the head took over a year to get ... I am not getting anywhere with the flow chart. So just guessing around 25psi for max as the head maybe swallowing up the boost??? If you didn't know it is a T3 vw exhaust with a T3 Merc 45 trim cold side. The head has 7mm stems and 40mm intake 33mm exhaust.
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#277
by
8v-of-fury
on 25 Aug, 2013 21:04
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NICE! and SIHT all at the same time.
Very weird what it is doing. Same noise, but no broken compressor.
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#278
by
theman53
on 26 Aug, 2013 09:40
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I think the last time something was messed up with the turbo. This noise sounds different than when the compressor bailed on me but the same noise as when CRSMP5 and I took that spin. The turbo when boosting over 10 psi makes a loud turbo whine too. It kind of scares me as it is loud and sounds like it is spinning too fast. I have no clue how fast it is going and that is why I wonder what the total PSI should be set at.
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#279
by
RabbitJockey
on 27 Aug, 2013 07:35
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im thinking you'll be done with that turbo in the 20-25psi range. i think you'll be able to tell when you're at the limit of the turbo, i know on my 1.8t it really pulls till 5-6k and then u can just feel it that theres no more air.
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#280
by
theman53
on 29 Aug, 2013 09:18
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Trying to find my old flow chart from Dec. of 08. I guess I will have to dig it up as where it was posted in my old thread is no longer working and I cannot find it in the computer. I have new flow chart numbers for the intake only I am trying to compare it to a stock heads flow. Granted every stock head will not flow exactly alike but this will give me an idea.
Found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the old head, it shows stock intake exhaust as well as the modded intake exhaust.
OK so to explain, 1 and 2 above are the intake in ported / stock. Then 3 and 4 are the exhaust in stock / ported...Of the old head in case you missed that. The top is just the intake numbers from the new head.
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#281
by
Rising
on 29 Aug, 2013 10:58
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So thats just ported intake and exhaust ports on the head before and after? Or is that with bigger valves and all your other mods?
If that's a simple port and polish. It seems there is great gains to be had on the intake side. I've been curious about doing some home gasket matching and polishing to try and eek out some more efficiency.
Also do you have numbers that compare the stock TD IM to your sausage stuffer flow or are those secrets
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#282
by
shwak23
on 29 Aug, 2013 12:25
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I think the last time something was messed up with the turbo. This noise sounds different than when the compressor bailed on me but the same noise as when CRSMP5 and I took that spin. The turbo when boosting over 10 psi makes a loud turbo whine too. It kind of scares me as it is loud and sounds like it is spinning too fast. I have no clue how fast it is going and that is why I wonder what the total PSI should be set at.
Have you posted a video of this beast yet?
Sent from Outer Space!
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#283
by
theman53
on 29 Aug, 2013 18:26
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So thats just ported intake and exhaust ports on the head before and after? Or is that with bigger valves and all your other mods?
If that's a simple port and polish. It seems there is great gains to be had on the intake side. I've been curious about doing some home gasket matching and polishing to try and eek out some more efficiency.
Also do you have numbers that compare the stock TD IM to your sausage stuffer flow or are those secrets
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I have no numbers on the sausage stuffer intake or the stock intake. Although my machinist said the stocker will "probably" flow similar to mine at redline, but it will have so much tumble that unless it is at redline it will flow a lot less in all other situations, especially low to mid rpm.
On the 2 charts. The top chart is the new oversized intake valve CFM ratings. The bottom chart is my old head that just had stock sized stainless valves and the port and polish vs. stock numbers on that same head with no port and polish. I just wanted to show what the difference was between stock, ported, and big valve 7mm stems ported.
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#284
by
theman53
on 29 Aug, 2013 18:32
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I think the last time something was messed up with the turbo. This noise sounds different than when the compressor bailed on me but the same noise as when CRSMP5 and I took that spin. The turbo when boosting over 10 psi makes a loud turbo whine too. It kind of scares me as it is loud and sounds like it is spinning too fast. I have no clue how fast it is going and that is why I wonder what the total PSI should be set at.
Have you posted a video of this beast yet?
Sent from Outer Space!
Just this one...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9su0uexjzme746/VID_20130714_180256_514.mp4and that is the 1st or 2nd start with the old turbo that blew up. It is a deep, nasty, and throaty little one, but that is the way I like them.
Soon I will post up something of it running but I haven't had a competent camera person yet.