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• Need help- 1.6TD cooling hose NLA - alternate hose ? by 2strokesmoke on 24 Oct, 2011 23:13
• Hi Guys.
  I finishing a 88 Fox wagon build.
  It has a 1.6TD from an 85 quantum installed.
  I went to the local VW dealer,to replace the old "T" hoses which feed and return from
  factory oil cooler- to find out they are NLA discontinued.
  Part #'s are : 068 121 053 AG   and 321 121 109 F
  One hose goes from water pump to cyl upper hose flange and "T" 's off to oil cooler
  other hose goes from water pump to heater pipe ? and "T" 's off to oil cooler.
  I have replaced ALL other hoses and would like to find NEW hoses to replace these.
  Maybe hoses from a transverse application are close and will fit ?
  Seeing as a fox wasn't equipped with a diesel- modification is expected- But something close would be great !
  I'm open to your suggestions !
  Thanks,Mike
• #1 by JerryGTD on 25 Oct, 2011 07:54
• I got my hoses from the bus depot.
  
  Found one for you here: http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=068121053AG
• #2 by rodpaslow on 25 Oct, 2011 08:51
• Get the front, in your case may be side (not sure which way engine is mounted in fox), coolant fitting from a AAZ.  The small hose that runs to the reservoir comes off of this coolant fitting in MK3 cars.  you can just use a regular hose to the rad and a small hose from the fitting to the reservoir.
  
  I had a aluminum fitting in my 1.6td, I just drilled and tapped it for a 1/4 NPT and have had no problems with it.  I was not going to pay $250 CAD for that hose!
• #3 by 2strokesmoke on 25 Oct, 2011 22:28
• Hi Guys,
  Thanks for your replies !
  I may end up making these hoses as well- Haven't decided yet.
  $ 88 for one hose is pretty steep - and it's a VW sub part # (as per VW dealer)
  But then agian, the original is 25 years old and not too bad-so if I get another 25 years-might be worth it.
  Here is what my hoses look like:
  
  http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/mowerman101/88%20Fox%20Wagon%201%206TD%20Build/oilcoolerhosespic1.jpg
  
  http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/mowerman101/88%20Fox%20Wagon%201%206TD%20Build/oilcoolerhosespic2.jpg
  
  http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/mowerman101/88%20Fox%20Wagon%201%206TD%20Build/oilcoolerhosesonenginepic1.jpg
  
  http://i781.photobucket.com/albums/yy93/mowerman101/88%20Fox%20Wagon%201%206TD%20Build/oilcoolerhosesonenginepic2.jpg
  
  Anyone think of anything else I may be able to use ?
  
  
  Thanks,Mike
• #4 by 2strokesmoke on 27 Oct, 2011 15:37
• Hi Guys,
  Thanks for all your help and input,with these hoses.
  I've decided to fabricate metal "T" fittings,for both of these hoses,
  so I can use easy to find non turbo hoses and standard 5/8" heater hose.
  My decesion is based on future availability of hoses.
  I'm building a daily driver and prefer to use parts that can be easily found,
  in the event of a breakdown,ect.
  The last thing I want,is to have the car sitting around for weeks,while I try and locate
  new hoses.This way,all the parts are easy to aquire.
  I have already fabricated a 5/8" 3 way "T" for the oil cooler return hose and
  a 1" X 1" X 5/8"  "T" for the bypass hose,to feed the oil cooler ( used a 1" threaded pipe-
  3" long and drilled and tapped a hole in the center for 3/8" pipe,where I installed a 3/8"
  Pipe X 5/8" hose barb and used JB weld on threads for sealant) Looks like it will do the trick.
  Agian,thanks for your input !
  Mike
• #5 by GEE-BEE on 12 Nov, 2011 08:33
• I make all those hoses in silicone
  
  068121053e
  
  037122058
  
  028121053 q
  
  I also make the oil cooler delete hose with no t
  037122058-mod
  
  GB
  
  MK1AUTOHAUS stocks just about everything
  I did all the MK gas assys also
• #6 by RabbitJockey on 13 Nov, 2011 09:19
• gee-bees stuff rules
• #7 by 2strokesmoke on 13 Nov, 2011 23:30
• Hey Gee-Bee,
  I did check your ebay store,as I have bought from you before.
  Didn't find anything to fit the Quantum 1.6TD or the Fox
  The longitudinal setups seem to use different hoses- the oil cooler is clocked differently,due to interference with the D/S engine mount / clutch cable mount.
  If you do make these hoses, let me know.
  sent you a PM
  Thanks,Mike