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Reply #15April 19, 2011, 02:18:43 pm

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Re: I need a straight answer! How much boost is safe???
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 02:18:43 pm »
I may consider a T3 if one comes up cheap locally. Are they a straight swap and am I right in thinking the mk3 golf 1.9TDI comes with these?

Reply #16April 19, 2011, 02:28:38 pm

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 02:28:38 pm »
They are a straight swap, you only need a new intake hose and oil return line.

The 1.9 came with a K03 turbo which is smaller than the K14. The T3 came with the early Vdub diesels!
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Reply #17April 19, 2011, 02:31:36 pm

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 02:31:36 pm »
Will a T3 from a ford or jap motor still fit? As they'd be easier to find. I didn't think you could get one much smaller than the T2/K14 lol

edit; like this one for example?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-Corolla-1-4-T3-D4D-Turbo-Charger-17201-0N010-/200579706146?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb37b6d22

or this? I think GTD's have a 4 bolt flange don't they?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T3-T4-Turbocharger-Turbo-50-A-R-27PSI-/200570204869?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb2ea72c5
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Reply #18April 19, 2011, 02:44:56 pm

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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2011, 02:44:56 pm »
The Toyota turbo won't fit; that has a 3-bolt flange.

And T3/T4 turbo doesn't have the exact same mounting pattern as the T3 and K24, and it's made for a gas engine. So unless your car revved to 7,000 rpms, it's pointless.

Just get a T3 or K24 from a MK1 or early MK2 TD ;)
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Reply #19April 19, 2011, 02:50:52 pm

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2011, 02:50:52 pm »
We didnt get mk1 TD's over here, all the early 1.6 Diesels were N/A, and finding someone breaking an early GTD over here is like looking for chicken's lips  :-\ I'd have to find a T3 from another diesel of some kind, with a 4 bolt flange. Anyway, that will wait till later on. I'm going to wind my boost back up tomorrow as it ran so much better and faster  ;D

Reply #20April 19, 2011, 02:54:21 pm

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Reply #21April 19, 2011, 05:28:16 pm

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2011, 05:28:16 pm »
do not go by what boost number is safe, go by egts, if you don't have an egt gauge, get one, if you can't afford 120 dollars for an egt gauge then you can't afford a cracked head, a prechamber dropping, or burnt pistons. simple as that.
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Reply #22April 19, 2011, 05:36:27 pm

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2011, 05:36:27 pm »
also mercedes t3 is good, depending on what you want
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Reply #23April 19, 2011, 06:32:10 pm

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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2011, 06:32:10 pm »
The 1.6 TD motor going in my Fox project came with a T3. It's from an '85 Quantum, MD engine code. Limited run build, but it was a factory 4-bolt T3.

Reply #24April 20, 2011, 10:16:35 am

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Re: I need a straight answer! How much boost is safe???
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2011, 10:16:35 am »
The 1.6 TD motor going in my Fox project came with a T3. It's from an '85 Quantum, MD engine code. Limited run build, but it was a factory 4-bolt T3.

you guys are not pointing out the fact about its shape.. its not a normal T3 flange, its a special trapezoidal flange, and VW is the only manufacturer ive seen to use it. and only on the earlier diesels..

you CAN use a mercedes T3 on a regular T3 flanged 8v vw turbo manifold.. custom feed lines, return lines, and all the piping would be necessary.

if you got a K24 from a GTD in germany, it would pretty much be a straight forward swap, AFAIK.. T3 wouldnt even be a bad swap, but i think the feed or return lines are different..
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Reply #25April 20, 2011, 10:27:36 am

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2011, 10:27:36 am »
I'l look into a turbo upgrade when more money comes my way  :D

In other news, I've adjusted the MBC today, 24psi peak, lots of power, lots of smiles  ;D

Reply #26April 20, 2011, 10:28:49 am

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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2011, 10:28:49 am »
I'l look into a turbo upgrade when more money comes my way  :D

In other news, I've adjusted the MBC today, 24psi peak, lots of power, lots of smiles  ;D

like was stated, with all that boost, you should get an EGT gauge before you melt something..

24 SHOULDNT melt anything as long as you dont have large amounts of black smoke..
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Reply #27April 20, 2011, 12:20:51 pm

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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2011, 12:20:51 pm »
24 psi is both unefficient and dangerous for your HG.
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Reply #28April 20, 2011, 12:27:09 pm

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Re: I need a straight answer! How much boost is safe???
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2011, 12:27:09 pm »
Boost won't melt anything, but it will hurt the HG.

If you are not intercooled and live in a climate that gets over 40 degress F then I would lower that boost.

Don't touch the fuel unless you have an EGT or that will melt stuff.

Reply #29April 20, 2011, 12:43:33 pm

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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2011, 12:43:33 pm »
As mentioned before, my EGTs are fine, I get a fine haze on boost, and the whole point of this thread was to see if this kind of boost would hurt my HG or not. So it seems I'm still getting conflicting information  ::)

Also I do have an intercooler, and I'd hardly say the UK was a warm climate  ;)