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Reply #15April 03, 2011, 03:54:48 am

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2011, 03:54:48 am »
At around 1.2 bar with fueling and boost pin, you're looking at around 110 hp at the wheels and around 200nm - ish.

There is this guy here in Norway who started out with an eco-diesel, he turned it up to 1.1bar, turned up the fuel and mounted an IC over the transmission. He started out with 60hp at the crank and 110nm, and it came out with 91hp at the crank and 182nm. This is with the eco pump too! It doesn't have the LDA.

So there is plenty of potential :)
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Reply #16April 03, 2011, 04:00:20 am

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2011, 04:00:20 am »
I currently have the IC over the gearbox too. So I should expect around 120-130bhp at the flywheel then? That would be awesome!

Reply #17April 03, 2011, 04:01:39 am

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No you're not looking at 120hp at the flywheel. 120hp at the real wheels, the ones that put it down ;) That's with minor adjustment with the pump and boost.
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Reply #18April 03, 2011, 04:27:18 am

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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2011, 04:27:18 am »
Or front wheels in my golf's case  :D

Reply #19April 03, 2011, 05:23:39 am

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You got it, bud! :D
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Reply #20April 03, 2011, 07:18:36 am

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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2011, 07:18:36 am »
I appreciate the clear picture of the boost controller install on our little K14! Thanks! What did you use to cut the line?

Reply #21April 03, 2011, 07:47:39 am

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Anyone got any pics of where they've tee'd the boost guage vacuum pipe into? I've just bought one and I'm too lazy to search for the ideal spot  :D

Reply #22April 03, 2011, 08:46:35 am

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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 08:46:35 am »
Question, so using the boost ref. from the turbo to the top of the LDA instead of at the manifold when intercooled could result in fuel inrichment sooner?

if you reference boost from the turbo, it will kick the LDA in sooner..

if you reference boost from the manifold, then it will kick in later.. because of pressure drop and such..
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Reply #23April 03, 2011, 09:34:12 am

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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 09:34:12 am »
I appreciate the clear picture of the boost controller install on our little K14! Thanks! What did you use to cut the line?
I used a hacksaw to cut through the metal line. That way, you get a clean cut and no restriction as you might get from using a pair of cutting pliers. :)
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Reply #24April 03, 2011, 09:34:53 am

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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2011, 09:34:53 am »
I appreciate the clear picture of the boost controller install on our little K14! Thanks! What did you use to cut the line?
I used a hacksaw to cut through the metal line. That way, you get a clean cut and no restriction as you might get from using a pair of cutting pliers. :)

i would just use a tubing cutter, if theres a straight enough section..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #25April 03, 2011, 09:37:01 am

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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2011, 09:37:01 am »
Anyone got any pics of where they've tee'd the boost guage vacuum pipe into? I've just bought one and I'm too lazy to search for the ideal spot  :D
I tee'd into the LDA rubber line. However, as R.O.R-2.0 is saying, teeing into the wastegate will yield a more accurate reading for the efficiency of the turbo. I'm gonna be doing that :D
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Reply #26April 03, 2011, 09:48:29 am

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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2011, 09:48:29 am »
Anyone got any pics of where they've tee'd the boost guage vacuum pipe into? I've just bought one and I'm too lazy to search for the ideal spot  :D
I tee'd into the LDA rubber line. However, as R.O.R-2.0 is saying, teeing into the wastegate will yield a more accurate reading for the efficiency of the turbo. I'm gonna be doing that :D

no dude, you got it wrong, you want to take a boost signal from as close to the intake port as possible.

if you use the wastegate signal, and your wastegate is set at say 15 psi (~1bar), then 15 psi at the turbo outlet may not be 15 psi at the intake ports.

i want my engine to see 15psi manifold pressure, not 15 psi turbo pressure. manifold pressure is almost lower than turbo outlet pressure, from restrictions in the piping, and hard turns..

i would hook it up backwards of how VW did it, i would hook the wastegate up to the intake manifold, and the LDA up to the turbo..

then the LDA will be reading slightly more pressure, and activate sooner.. while the boost gauge will be reading actual manifold pressure..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #27April 03, 2011, 09:54:09 am

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Anyone got any pics of where they've tee'd the boost guage vacuum pipe into? I've just bought one and I'm too lazy to search for the ideal spot  :D
I tee'd into the LDA rubber line. However, as R.O.R-2.0 is saying, teeing into the wastegate will yield a more accurate reading for the efficiency of the turbo. I'm gonna be doing that :D

no dude, you got it wrong, you want to take a boost signal from as close to the intake port as possible.

if you use the wastegate signal, and your wastegate is set at say 15 psi (~1bar), then 15 psi at the turbo outlet may not be 15 psi at the intake ports.

i want my engine to see 15psi manifold pressure, not 15 psi turbo pressure. manifold pressure is almost lower than turbo outlet pressure, from restrictions in the piping, and hard turns..

i would hook it up backwards of how VW did it, i would hook the wastegate up to the intake manifold, and the LDA up to the turbo..

then the LDA will be reading slightly more pressure, and activate sooner.. while the boost gauge will be reading actual manifold pressure..
D'oh!  :-[

That makes total sense now. I'm gonna be doing that for sure! So, manifold -- wastegate and turbo -- LDA?

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Reply #28April 03, 2011, 10:10:31 am

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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2011, 10:10:31 am »
kinda up in the air tho, thats just how i would hook it up..

ive never done it that way, because i dont run a wastegate, or an LDA.. lol.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #29April 03, 2011, 10:41:58 am

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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2011, 10:41:58 am »
I'm gonna try that for sure anyhow. I'm ordering a new MBC which can be adjusted from inside the cabin and then I'll give it a go :D
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